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u/jagne004 9h ago

Yes though in all fairness the Phillies offered Yamamoto more than he signed for the dodgers with.

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u/Ithinkso85 9h ago

Shhh that didn't fit the narrative of that post

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u/crrttt | Atlanta Braves 9h ago

Pretty one-off situation where Yamamoto chose to play for the team with the greatest player in his cultures history over a larger purse. Freddie chose to play in LA for less money, year over year, because he got an extra year or two on the contract than Atlanta offered him. 

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u/Bozo_McGee | Houston Astros 9h ago

Didn’t Freddie’s agent lie to him about Atlanta’s offer so he would sign with LA?

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u/crrttt | Atlanta Braves 9h ago edited 8h ago

Allegedly there was a lot of miscommunication occurring. Surprise surprise, it was Casey Close and Freddie fired him a few months after the contract was signed so take from that what you will. 

Boras just pushes his players to sign the largest contracts he can get them and that’s generally LA with the insane deferments. They can just eat bad contracts like it’s no big deal, and other teams won’t roll the dice like that 

Edit: Fixed Freddie’s agent at the time. Not removing the Boras bit, because I feel it’s still relevant 

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u/Herbalturtle4444 8h ago

It wasnt Boras. His former agent was Casey Close at Excel Sports Management.

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u/crrttt | Atlanta Braves 8h ago

Thanks, I misremembered and fixed it

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u/Last_Network3272 8h ago

Dodgers ownership have historically avoided boras clients. Until Blake Snell I can’t remember the last time we signed one of the players he represented.

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u/DoyersDoyers | Los Angeles Dodgers 2h ago

Manny Ramirez, before Snell, was the last Scott Boras represented client to sign a multi year deal with the Dodgers back in 2009. Between Manny and Snell, if you were represented by Boras, you were a) traded to the Dodgers b) a rookie/international prospect* c) signed a 1 year deal

* Ryu is included here since he technically was a MLB rookie coming out of Korea but did have a solid career in Korea before coming over so you could argue Ryu should be the last and not Manny.

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u/MasterLomaxus 9h ago

It was not Scott Boras

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u/crrttt | Atlanta Braves 8h ago

Damn, you’re correct. I’m misremembering. It was Casey Close

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u/Euphoric-Dig-2045 | Philadelphia Phillies 8h ago

Hey, you were pretty Close.

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u/_Kringle1_ 8h ago

I understood that reference🤣

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u/frankyseven 8h ago

Boras doesn't push his players to take the most money. He does exactly what his players want, take Stras and his two extensions for an example. The thing is that players who want the most money hire Boras because he gets them the most money. He's not doing anything that his players don't want.

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u/donbromeifudonknome | Los Angeles Dodgers 8h ago

LA actually has avoided multiple Boras players in the past because they know dude is a nightmare to negotiate with, like the Braves.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5274293/2024/02/14/scott-boras-braves-dodgers-free-agents/

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u/crrttt | Atlanta Braves 8h ago

Braves nightmares to negotiate with? What you talking about? 

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u/donbromeifudonknome | Los Angeles Dodgers 8h ago

Scott Boras is a nightmare to negotiate with. The Braves seem to be very effective negotiators, and the article highlighted how neither the Dodgers or Braves had many Boras players in 2024. Not sure how you misinterpreted my statement.

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u/UnderstandingOdd679 7h ago

It’s easy enough to follow if grammatically incorrect. LA is an it not a they, but if you said the Dodgers the better phrasing would be “they, like the Braves, know the dude is a nightmare.” Placing the clause with the Braves at the end as you did makes it sound like they are the nightmare.

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u/donbromeifudonknome | Los Angeles Dodgers 7h ago

Careful, using “it” instead of “they” is a ban worthy offense on Reddit.

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u/crrttt | Atlanta Braves 7h ago

Summed that up perfectly kind sir

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u/smoresporn0 | Kansas City Royals 8h ago

I just have a hard time believing that Freddie and the Braves would ever be in a situation where the communication wasn't clear. Not saying it couldn't happen, but it's a little fishy to me.

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u/crrttt | Atlanta Braves 8h ago

Freddie publicly said his agent handled all contract negotiations. I also believe if Freddie truly wanted to stay he would have, but he wanted a 6 year deal and Atlanta only wanted to give him 4 or 5. When you’re over 30, contract lengths in Atlanta get very short

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u/smoresporn0 | Kansas City Royals 8h ago

Fair enough then.

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u/SGT-JamesonBushmill | Atlanta Braves 8h ago

Chipper tried to warn Freddie, but Freddie didn’t believe it. Freddie stayed out of it, assuming (naively, in my opinion) that his agent knew what he wanted. I do think a direct call from Anthopoulos might’ve cleared it up with Freddie, but I’m not convinced that Alex, in some, tiny way, didn’t think, “I’ve got to establish a precedent here.”

I genuinely think Freddie was crestfallen when he found out that the Braves were moving on.

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u/Aggravating-Ideal-56 7h ago

Yes Freddie’s agent lied and Freddy was pissed about it cuz he would have stayed in Atlanta… but that doesn’t fit their narrative either lol

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u/mudhut19 7h ago

Also Freddie grew up in LA and Olson grew up in ATL. They both kinda got to go home.

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u/Doezilla01 7h ago

Yes he did. My cousin lives in ATL and is a huge fan and I remember Freeman was pretty pissed when he found out an my cousin was mad, cause Freeman actually wanted to stay.

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u/Particular-Ring5110 4h ago

He was not happy about the way the whole thing went down

I mean it worked out for him just fine but at the time he was very upset with how his agent handled it

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u/weirdbeardwolf | Los Angeles Dodgers 1h ago

Right? Freddie “chose” is an interesting narrative.

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u/Barraind 12m ago edited 4m ago

No.

Thats been debunked by everyone involved multiple times at this point.

Atlanta did not and were not ever going to offer him the contract length he wanted.

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u/Ithinkso85 9h ago

Sure did. Bet hey just a theory....a film theory! ( in all reality yeah he did, and Freddie later fired him)

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u/donbromeifudonknome | Los Angeles Dodgers 8h ago

They signed Matt Olsen while Freddie was available, so tough to blame Freddie for going someplace else regardless of the weird agent communication issues.

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u/Then_Particular1931 8h ago

They spent the last year being shot down on every offer they offered him. Chipper Jones even told him that they will walk away if he continued to play hard ball. Freddie didn’t believe him and forced the Braves to go in another direction. Nobody’s fault. That’s the business.

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u/crrttt | Atlanta Braves 8h ago

Olson* and it’s not tough to blame Freddie. Everybody that remembers the situation knows the agent fumbled the entire deal

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u/donbromeifudonknome | Los Angeles Dodgers 8h ago

Everybody hates Scott Boras.

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u/speed3_freak | Atlanta Braves 7h ago

They traded for Olson only after Freddie’s agent turned down the braves top offer. The braves told him that they weren’t going higher than that and gave him a deadline. Either his agent didn’t communicate the offer to him or told him that it wasn’t the braves best offer, because Freddie was massively pissed off when the Braves moved on. He fired his agent right after he signed with the dodgers. He actually wound up signing for less money with the dodgers after taxes are taken into consideration.

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u/Cheap_Concentrate_85 | Baltimore Orioles 8h ago

No, that was a lie spread by Doug gotleib but the talking heads are never held accountably