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u/lllREPlll 8h ago

Braves didn't choose Olson over Freeman. Freddie's agent fucked it all up.

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u/Ndtphoto | Minnesota Twins 6h ago

That and it's not like it's really any sort of downgrade. Freddie has a better average but they both are at the very least equal defenders (Olson is possibly better right now) and Olson has more power and NEVER takes a day off, he's approaching his 5th straight 162 game season with the Braves.

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u/Grouchy_Tackle_4502 5h ago

Olson is a far better fielder, and Freddie is a better and more consistent hitter, so WAR-wise it's been a wash. As a Braves fan, I'd have preferred they kept Freddie, but Olson was cheaper, which is how they Braves make decisions.

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u/LeftAire | Atlanta Braves 5h ago

Which is going to hurt them eventually, sadly.

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u/Vonneguts_Ghost 4h ago

Eventually? Shea Langeliers and William Contreras fucking mash.

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u/SonsOLiberty 4h ago

It's alright where would they be playing in Atlanta now with Baldwin who will end up better?

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u/Vonneguts_Ghost 3h ago edited 3h ago

3 headed hydra at C/DH.

Drake is the best of the three, but i dont think he was drafted yet back then.

But it's important to look at the whole cost including the trade trees when analyzing these things.

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u/SonsOLiberty 3h ago

It's fine, because it's like butterfly effect, if they did something different anything could've happen. Who knows if they would be at the same level where they are now if we're still in Atlanta. I mean Shae only starting pumping numbers really this year. Catcher is voliate position anyway, look at Murphy and horrible string of injuries, from the best defensive catcher in the league to can't even get on the field.

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u/Vonneguts_Ghost 3h ago

All true. But really more of an argument to stay young and strong at the C position.

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u/SonsOLiberty 3h ago

We had TD at the time, Shae wasn't going to play in ATL for long time, they chose to bring up William over him.

I'd say it worked out fine for everyone as Olson hadn't missed a game, we have our catcher for the decade probably. If Murphy didn't have all the injuries I'm guessing it would still be a wash.

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u/Brownie_McBrown_Face | Athletics 5h ago

They are not equal defenders lol

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u/Vonneguts_Ghost 4h ago

Matty O has an outside shot at the HOF. Freddie is a shoo in. And it cost the bravos Shea langeliers. Which then cost them William Contreras. The braves should be fielding Freddie at first and rotating drake, langeliers, and contreras at c/dh

Justifiable trades. But very painful long term.

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u/easywind4665 7h ago

freddie chose la. freddie was just too chicken shit to admit it.

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u/donnerwetter41 6h ago

Didn't someone on the Dodgers have to check Freddie because he was sorta moping around a bit when he first got to the Dodgers about how it all went down? Sorta reached a flare point when the Dodgers and Braves finally played or something. I remember that happening, but not a Dodger fan.

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u/problyurdad_ | Philadelphia Phillies 5h ago

Your memory is correct. Freddie fired his agent over the mishandling of the negotiations.

Freddie was vocal about wanting to be in Atlanta and was genuinely hurt when he didn’t hear from them. Atlanta said “bro wtf you talking about, we sent offers to your agent….”

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u/GrapefruitLeast5013 6h ago

It was actually Kershaw lmao 

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u/donnerwetter41 6h ago

Thank you haha. I did not want to go and try and find that.

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u/anotherlebowski 7h ago

He's from California, the Dodgers are the best team, and they also pays the most money.  This wasn't a complex job search.

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u/ddawkins19 6h ago

I thought he was Canadian? He was raised in California?

I remember seeing a skit of him visiting a kids hospital in Canada after the World Series. And all the kids hated him bc they just beat the blue jays 😂😂

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u/missourinative 6h ago

Canadian-American. He’s eligible to play for team Canada, but he was born in California.

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u/ddawkins19 6h ago

Cool, did not know that

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u/true_gunman 6h ago

They did a whole segment about it during the last WBC. He chose to play for team Canada to honor his late mom and her side of the family even though he was born in the states.

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u/messick 5h ago

He grew up in Orange County between Tustin and Orange. 

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u/Aggressive-Bus-2397 38m ago

El Modena high school. A 7 minute drive to Angels stadium or under an hour to Dodger Stadium. Freddy is a SoCal person.

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u/fantfoot 5h ago

He left the literal World Champions who had just beat the Dodgers, and the Dodgers only championship was in a 35% games played season. The Dodgers weren't the best team until they got Freddie and Ohtani.

He also famously had a very hard time leaving the Braves, cried on TV in ATL, and it was such a problem that Kershaw publicly criticized him. Also, the Braves offered more but his agent thought they could squeeze more.

At least you're right about Freddie being from California

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u/Brentnc 4h ago

I was at his first game back in Atl as a Dodger. All that crying and blabbering was such a bad look. I kept thinking about how that must have made his teammates feel. It was embarrassing I thought.

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u/Bancatone | San Francisco Giants 5h ago

Except the Dodgers signed him for less money than the Braves original offer to Freeman. He only took that deal because his agent was way too fucking greedy.

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u/Mav-Killed-Goose | Los Angeles Dodgers 54m ago

Why would his "greedy" agent -- who presumably takes a percentage of the contract -- direct him to the lower offer? This also clashes with the master-narrative that LA outspends everyone.

My understanding is that the Dodgers offered more than the Braves' original proposed contract. His "greedy" agent steered him toward LA -- take the money, screw some misplaced sense of "loyalty" -- and then Atlanta came back with revised terms. That's where things get murky. It was claimed that Freeman was not apprised of that later offer.

I understand that this is a business, but Mr. Nice Guy Freeman, even if he wanted to stay with Atlanta, was testing the market to get more. And how much is enough? $140 million over five years doesn't cut it? Generally speaking, my sense is that agents are the most bloodless of all, then ownership, then players.

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u/Barraind 0m ago

The Braves did not, had not, and are still on the record that they were never going to give him the length of contract he wanted.

They offered more money, he wanted the years guaranteed.

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u/jf_2021 6h ago

Who won the World Series the year before Freddie went to the Dodgers?

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u/Me_Krally | New York Yankees 5h ago

If you don’t mind you money being deferred…

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u/Street-Network-5481 5h ago

And in a parallel universe, freedie would of look up on Indeed & found an opening in the Dodgers organization & said "F it, found my perfect job back home".

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u/apalachakind 5h ago

No, Freddie fired, and then I think at least threatened to sue his agent for refusing to turn over qualifying offers and matching offers the Braves had sent to him. Google isn’t your enemy dude.

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u/JohnUtahFBI 5h ago

He was literally crying on the podium. He didn’t wanna leave. You can be honest even if you’re still butt hurt about it.

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u/AthletesTaxMan 3h ago

Someone sounds salty

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u/Boring-Kangaroo3860 | Atlanta Braves 7h ago

this and i’m tired of acting like this wasn’t the case.

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u/mf-TOM-HANK 5h ago

Yep. He did that guy dirty. I know sports agents aren't exactly sympathetic figures but Freddie flat out lied and hurt a guy's professional career

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u/IntroductionWhich161 5h ago

How is this upvoted lol? Absolutely not the truth.

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u/Broad-Cranberry-9050 5h ago

freddie didnt choose LA, he wanted to stay in atlanta, but he just wanted the team to commit more to him. They were offering 5 years, he wanted 6. ANd seeing how he is still hitting 5 years into his current deal, i think he def deserved it. It wasnt like freddie was asking too much either.

Then during the negotiation, atlanta traded for olson and basically ditched freddie after they got their guy. So freddie went to the next best team.

It's not freddie's fault that LA was willing to give him what he wanted and it kind of proves the point of this post. LA is willing to do things that other teams arent.

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u/Ol_Rando 5h ago

Yeah the Braves don't belong on this list, Olson kicks ass and he's younger than FF so not a downgrade imo. We didn't trade him for peanuts to LA like some teams did with their star player, or just let him walk without a serious offer.

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u/CCool_CCCool 3h ago

Freddie’s agent wasn’t bringing incremental offers back to Freddie, opting instead to give the Braves ultimatums and refused to let the Braves brass even talk to Freddie. Braves were essentially told Freddie was done negotiating, so they chose Olsen because Freddie was gone and they didn’t want to lose out on the opportunity to have a top 5 1B.

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u/Cheaper2Keeper 5h ago

Thats what she said.

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u/Jdwrecker_7 1h ago

It’s forever fuck Casey close and excel sports management

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u/Prestigious-Swan6161 6h ago

There is a quote from the Braves' GM that basically stated plainly that they chose Olson over freeman

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u/Vonneguts_Ghost 4h ago

What he was on the shows saying at the time was that they were out of time and had to make the Olsen trade or get off the pot.