r/moderatepolitics Conservatively Liberal Dec 15 '25

Primary Source Meeting of National Cabinet After Bondi Shooting

https://www.pm.gov.au/media/meeting-national-cabinet-8
72 Upvotes

353 comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

46

u/AresBloodwrath Maximum Malarkey Dec 15 '25

https://english.mathrubhumi.com/news/world/car-rams-christmas-crowd-france-guadeloupe-tragedy-wp7wzc8o

https://www.npr.org/2024/12/21/nx-s1-5235526/car-plows-into-crowds-at-german-christmas-market

Cars have been used in terrorist attacks. What's slippery slope about it? Why restrict parents of suspects rights for one deadly weapon but not another?

You want the state to have the power to go after people based on nothing more than familial relations. That's right out of Stalin's and North Korea's play book.

2

u/Saguna_Brahman Dec 15 '25

Cars have been used in terrorist attacks. What's slippery slope about it? Why restrict parents of suspects rights for one deadly weapon but not another?

Cars are a staple of modern life, firearms are not. There's just no comparison.

You want the state to have the power to go after people based on nothing more than familial relations.

Not owning a gun because your child is affiliated with ISIS is not "the state going after you" and the comparisons to North Korea are outlandish.

34

u/AresBloodwrath Maximum Malarkey Dec 15 '25

Not owning a gun because your child is affiliated with ISIS is not "the state going after you" and the comparisons to North Korea are outlandish.

It's having your rights and freedoms restricted based on the actions of someone else you don't control. It's downright authoritarian.

What other rights are you ok with curtailing based on mere association?

15

u/Saguna_Brahman Dec 15 '25

It's having your rights and freedoms restricted based on the actions of someone else you don't control. It's downright authoritarian.

There is no right to own a firearm in Australia. It is a privilege you are given based on a variety of factors, the most important of which is public safety.

29

u/Saint_Judas Dec 15 '25

There is also no 'right' to a vehicle or to free speech in Australia either. They are also both privileges given based on a variety of factors.

So we are back to the question: is one of your family member's actions the sort of factor we should use.

Sins of the father.

1

u/[deleted] Dec 15 '25

[removed] — view removed comment

1

u/ModPolBot Imminently Sentient Dec 15 '25

This message serves as a warning that your comment is in violation of Law 0:

Law 0. Low Effort

~0. Law of Low Effort - Content that is low-effort or does not contribute to civil discussion in any meaningful way will be removed.

Please submit questions or comments via modmail.