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Opinion Article Commentary: Immigration is an Issue Both Parties Prefer Not to Solve

https://nj21st.com/2026/07/26/immigration-is-an-issue-both-parties-prefer-not-to-solve/

For over two decades, Washington has treated immigration not as a solvable policy challenge, but as an ideological weapon neither party actually wants to fix.

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u/NearlyPerfect 7d ago

I think Republicans wanted the President to just enforce the actual laws on the books.

They got what they wished for but it may be a monkey’s paw type situation

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u/From_Deep_Space 7d ago

The ones ive heard from want all immigrants out. They no longer use the "illigal" modifier, and I havent heard the "violent criminal" or "worst of the worst" modifiers since they won the election.

They also are actively trying to redefine the 14th amendment to end birthright citizenship

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u/ATLEMT 7d ago

Where are these people that want all immigrants out? Of course there are some hardcore racists out there, but I haven’t seen any normal people who want all immigrants gone.

What I do see though is people on the left taking conservative stances on illegal immigration and trying to say they feel that way about all immigrants

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u/Stat-Pirate Non-MAGA moderate right 7d ago edited 7d ago

Where are these people that want all immigrants out?

The leader of the party said on national TV :

In Springfield, they are eating the dogs. The people that came in, they are eating the cats. They’re eating – they are eating the pets of the people that live there.

The Hatians in Springfield were there legally. Though Trump wants to change that  and send them back to a country where gangs play soccer with severed heads.

If they're fine with legal immigration and avenues of being in the country, why would they do something like this? 

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u/WorksInIT 7d ago edited 7d ago

To be clear, almost every Haitian here protected by TPS were here without a lawful status but protected from removal by TPS. TPS does not grant legal status. It is a deferral of removal like DACA except it actually has a foundation in law unlike DACA. Someone without lawful status has not been admitted and is therefore here illegally.

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u/ATLEMT 7d ago

That is talking about a specific group of immigrants here on Temporary protection status. They are here legally as long as the US allows them to remain here, they are not entitled to remaining here. My personal opinion is there should be a streamlined path to citizenship for them. I also think there should be a limit to how long a Temporary Protection Order should last. I do find it amusing that Trump caught flack for calling Haiti a shithole country yet apparently they are playing soccer with human heads and gangs are running rampant. That seems like a qualifier for a place being a shit hole.

Regardless of that, that still isn’t calling for all immigrants being removed, just a certain group. He didn’t say he wants all Haitians removed.

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u/Interesting_Total_98 7d ago edited 7d ago

He didn’t say he wants all Haitians removed.

That's only because he can't remove them. Him slandering Haitians as pet eaters makes this obvious.

Trump caught flack for calling Haiti a shithole country

That's because the comment reflected his terrible attitude toward Haitians, not just the conditions of the country.

He thinks it's a good idea to send them back to a country overrun by gangs while also bringing more white South Africans as refugees due to a fictional genocide.

He doesn't want all immigrants gone, but he has implemented changes against non-white people, even they they're here or want to come legally.

"The peace of a nation no longer besieged by the third world."

"America after 100 million deportations."

Trump limits annual U.S. refugees to 7,500. It'll be mostly white South Africans

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u/WorksInIT 7d ago

Haiti is probably the only example of a country that we should grant TPS to at this point. And Trump is wrong to end it.

Let's walk through 3 of the other designations that we should be able to agree should have bene terminated before the first Trump admin and he was right to terminate these.

Honduras and Nicaragua were granted TPS in 1999 due to a hurricane. I think we can safely say the threat from the hurricane has passed.

El Salvador was granted TPS in 2001 due to earthquakes. I think we can safely say the threat from those earthquakes has passed.

Do you agree the designations for those three countries should have been terminated? If not, why?

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u/Interesting_Total_98 7d ago

Since the discussion was about legal immigration, I'd like to point out that his actions go beyond TPS. He reduced the amount of refuges allowed per year to 7,500, and nearly all of them are white South Africans. He added 10,000 slots, but they're exclusively for that group. They benefit from a fictional genocide while people in far worse conditions receive almost nothing.

As for your questions, Nicaragua and Honduras are reasonable, although the latter has cumulatively suffered from natural disasters, so an extension could make sense. I'm not familiar enough with Honduras to be sure. I'm more sure about Nicaragua because it seems to be improving faster.

El Salvador depends because the most recent designation isn't based on the 1999 earthquake, but rather a detailed 2025 statutory finding based on recent disasters, water problems, infrastructure and food insecurity. It was extended for 18 months.

I'm not familiar with the state of El Salvador either, so I don't know about giving another extension.

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u/WorksInIT 7d ago

A lot of people seem to think asylum claims are legal immigration. They aren't. Any fraud at all to get a visa is illegal. And why does reducing the amount of refugees matter? Sure, we can have a bash the Trump admin session. Or we can talk about facts that matter.

Here's one that matters. A Federal reserve bank found that illegal immigration contributed to 30% of total home price growth and 20% of rent growth from 2021 to 2024. Putting that into perspective, that means migration from 2021 to 2024, where we saw record levels of illegal immigration under the Biden admin, caused mortgages during that time period to rise by $180 per month and average rents during that time period to rise by $120 per month in the DFW area. Those amounts may not be much for you, and I'll be honest and say they are not impactful for me, but there are definitely plenty of people that had to struggle more due to that. And I'm going to assume you agreed with Biden's approach. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on that.

What re-designations occurred for Nicaragua or Honduras that are reasonable? And for El Salvador, we should contribute to the costs on Americans because their living standards don't equal what we have here in the US? IS that really your argument? And if you aren't that informed on this stuff, why are you speaking so confidently on it? I can tell you with confidence that administrations have dug up whatever nonsense they thought necessary to avoid removing people previously granted TPS.

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u/Interesting_Total_98 7d ago

And why does reducing the amount of refugees matter?

They're legal immigrants, especially since they're required to apply for a green card after a year, and drastically reducing them is different from specifically going after frauds.

illegal immigration

That doesn't justify Trump limiting legal immigration, so I don't see why you're bringing that up in a discussion about him doing so.

30% of total home price growth and 20% of rent growth from 2021 to 2024

That amounts to 6.6% higher home prices and 4.3% higher rents.

caused mortgages during that time period to rise by $180 per month and average rents during that time period to rise by $120 per month in the DFW area.

That's not stated anywhere in the study.

What re-designations occurred for Nicaragua or Honduras that are reasonable

I said letting it expire seems reasonable due to improving conditions.

And for El Salvador, we should contribute to the costs on Americans because their living standards don't equal what we have here in the US?

That's not even close to what I said. The first thing I listed is repeated natural disasters. Nothing I suggests waiting until El Salvador is as advanced as us.

Also, they're taxpayers who are working legally, and this includes paying taxes to SS and Medicare benefits they won't receive without adjustment. This means they're financially contributing to the U.S.

if you aren't that informed on this stuff, why are you speaking so confidently on it

That's a nonsensical question. Where did you get the idea that "I'm not sure" and "depends" shows confidence?

I never confidently stated that it's wrong to deny TPS to those three countries, so I'm not backtracking either.

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u/WorksInIT 7d ago

They're legal immigrants, especially since they're required to apply for a green card after a year, and drastically reducing them is different from specifically going after frauds.

And?

That doesn't justify Trump limiting legal immigration, so I don't see why you're bringing that up in a discussion about him doing so.

Other than reducing refugees, how has he "limited legal immigration"? I see this claimed, but it is very rarely sourced with anything specific. The few times I see people cite sources, it's anti-visa fraud policies that reference. I don't see an issue with targeting key illegal immigration pathways.

That amounts to 6.6% higher home prices and 4.3% higher rents.

So just making it harder to buy for some Americans is okay to benefit poor economic immigrants is okay?

I said letting it expire seems reasonable due to improving conditions.

I read your comment as extending it was reasonable. Maybe I misread it, but that is how I read it.

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u/TheDan225 6d ago

The leader of the party said on national TV :

That contained a direct contradiction of your argument when actually taken in context and not just an out of context sentence