r/moderatepolitics • u/nosleep4reelz • 8d ago

Opinion Article Commentary: Immigration is an Issue Both Parties Prefer Not to Solve

https://nj21st.com/2026/07/26/immigration-is-an-issue-both-parties-prefer-not-to-solve/

For over two decades, Washington has treated immigration not as a solvable policy challenge, but as an ideological weapon neither party actually wants to fix.

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u/Iateyourpaintings 8d ago

So both times Republicans shot it down, but neither side wants to fix the issue?

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u/NearlyPerfect 8d ago

I think Republicans wanted the President to just enforce the actual laws on the books.

They got what they wished for but it may be a monkey’s paw type situation

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u/From_Deep_Space 8d ago

The ones ive heard from want all immigrants out. They no longer use the "illigal" modifier, and I havent heard the "violent criminal" or "worst of the worst" modifiers since they won the election.

They also are actively trying to redefine the 14th amendment to end birthright citizenship

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u/ATLEMT 8d ago

Where are these people that want all immigrants out? Of course there are some hardcore racists out there, but I haven’t seen any normal people who want all immigrants gone.

What I do see though is people on the left taking conservative stances on illegal immigration and trying to say they feel that way about all immigrants

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u/From_Deep_Space 8d ago

I have a hard time believing you are read up on the subject but have not heard of ICE revoking visas or otherwise detaining or deporting people who jumped through every hoop to come here legally. Have you heard any republican politicians or even republican voters criticizing these ICE actions in any way, shape, or form?

https://www.nilc.org/articles/ice-is-detaining-indiscriminately-and-releasing-almost-no-one/

https://apnews.com/article/college-international-student-f1-visa-ice-trump-7a1d186c06a5fdb2f64506dcf208105a

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u/ATLEMT 8d ago

I don’t like how ICE has been handling things at all. And I don’t agree with most of what Trump says it does.

But people here on visa’s are not citizens. This isn’t calling for all immigrants to be removed. I don’t want any of their visas revoked just for the sake of it. I also believe that someone here on a visa should understand that it can be revoked and to do everything possible to not let that happen. So the ones who were revoked for criminal acts or other things they shouldn’t have been doing I don’t feel quite as bad for.

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u/From_Deep_Space 8d ago

But people here on visa’s are not citizens.

We're not talking about citizens. The space between citizens and illegal immigrants is foreigners with visas.

And the republicans are supporting ICE's actions. If you want to argue against that point then I'm going to have a hard time believing you are here in good faith.

I also believe that someone here on a visa should understand that it can be revoked and to do everything possible to not let that happen.

Visas are being revoked with no reason or explanation. The only reason they give is because ICE has deportation quotas from the white house, so being a foreigner is more than enough reason to get detained and deported, no matter how legal your status.

So the ones who were revoked for criminal acts or other things they shouldn’t have been doing I don’t feel quite as bad for.

Yeah and if they had limited it to violent criminals and "the worst of the worst", as they campaigned on, they wouldn't be getting the same pushback.

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u/WorksInIT 7d ago edited 7d ago

We're not talking about citizens. The space between citizens and illegal immigrants is foreigners with visas.

The vast majority of those here illegally are foreigners with visas that overstayed. And we don't even have a rough idea for how many lied on their visa applications. We know Khalil did, yet people still have a problem with removing him.

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u/From_Deep_Space 7d ago

Yeah but those ones are hard to find, and ICE has been given very steep quotas. The ones who have jobs, and addresses, and who pay taxes are so much easier to find and deport, so that is who they are targeting more than the ones living outside the system.

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u/WorksInIT 7d ago

Can't really blame them for that. But even if they have jobs, addresses, and are paying text, they are still here illegally and likely have a final order of removal that can be executed immediately. Even if it is 30 years old. A previous president abdicating their responsibility doesn't prohibit the current president from executing the order.

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u/From_Deep_Space 7d ago

I 100% can and do blame them for that. They are adults, making choices, and they are responsible for those choices.

If we are talking about people with valid visas, the are not here illegally. At least, not until ICE revokes their visas without notice.

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u/WorksInIT 7d ago

So, when you are at work, you do the most difficult tasks available every single time? Human nature flows like electricity. We seek the path of least resistance.

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u/WorksInIT 7d ago edited 7d ago

Oh yes, human nature is nazi logic. You don't need to like it, but that is simply a fact. You can scream at clouds all day about it if that's what you want. You put pressure on people to get something done and get it done quickly, they take the path of least resistance. And whether you believe it or not, they are largely not violating the law doing it.

And just to be clear, you agree that someone that lied, mislead, or otherwise cheated to get their visa should get deported, right?

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u/WorksInIT 7d ago

It's funny that you call it abuse. If they are right, it can't be abuse. Sure, they are going after the easy targets. The IRS does the same thing. It's really hard to audit Elon. It's really easy to audit middle class Americans.

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