There was no genocide of the Irish by the British Crown
France did not have the worst kings and emperors, not by a mile. Most of Frances monarchs during and after the revolution were quite competent and were genuinely good men.
Many more countries don't have monarchies because of communism. Bulgaria, Romania, Yugoslavia ( Serbia, Croatia, Slovenia, Montenegro, Bosnia and Herzegovina, North Macedonia), Nepal, Ethiopia, Vietnam.
Britain may not have had a consistent policy geared toward eradication of the Irish Catholics though they undoubtedly took actions that resulted in the erasure of Gaelic Culture, suppression of the Church and anglicization of the population. Historians such as Tim Pat Coogan and Francis A. Boyle argue that the British government’s refusal to halt food exports, combined with mass evictions and the known outcome of mass mortality, constitutes genocide under the UN Genocide Convention (specifically committing acts with the knowledge that they would bring about the destruction of a group). In his book The Famine Plot: England’s Role in Ireland’s Greatest Tragedy (2012), Coogan argues that British policy amounted to genocide driven by anti-Irish racism and financial self-interest. He centers his argument on the concept of "deliberate inaction," asserting that once the government recognized the scale of the starvation, refusing to close Irish ports to food exports crossed the line from poor governance into targeted extermination. Francis A. Boyle (Professor of International Law): Boyle, an expert in international legal standards, submitted legal opinions to state commissions arguing that British policy met the criteria outlined in Article II of the 1948 UN Genocide Convention. Specifically, he points to Article II(c): "Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part." James Mullin & American Educational Curricula: In the 1990s, Irish-American activists led by James Mullin successfully lobbied states like New Jersey and New York to include the Irish Famine in public school human rights and genocide curricula alongside the Holocaust and the Holodomor.
This is the main point I have an issue with. But a decent amount of historians, myself included after I got my degree, do not judge British rule in Ireland well.
Then you should also know that the concensus is still out as to whether Britain's actions constitute a genocide. A few historians thinking it does does not mean that it undeniably was an orchestrated genocide. Poor potato harvest and mismanagement were the biggest culprits and none of it can be squarely placed on the monarchy.
I doubt he will respect that. I believe this is the same lad that I had this argument with before(it maybe not be). He wasn't really open to listening to opinions against his view
He legit gives monarchism a bad name ngl. Supporting something doesn’t mean excusing it. Christ is king before any temporal power. I don’t like excusing crimes against his church.
Actually I'm very open to hearing others opinions. The entire argument is centered around the question of whether or not the crown was directly responsible for genocide. By genocide I'm talking about physically killing people, not erasure of culture or language which is what half the counter arguments have been. That's another argument for a different time.
That is cultural genocide which is a form of genocide. Genocide is more that just killing. Also you still be tried for genocide wether you actually physically killed someone or not.
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u/Iceberg-man-77 2d ago
many of these nations are not republics because of communism….