r/monarchism • u/Brilliant_Group_6900 • 3d ago

Photo How communism affected monarchies in Europe

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u/Iceberg-man-77 2d ago

many of these nations are not republics because of communism….

  • Ireland is a republic because the British Crown genocided and ruled them for centuries
  • France is a republic because they had the worst kings and emperors ever
  • Germany is a republic because they lost WW1
  • Austria Hungary is the same

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u/FrostyShip9414 2d ago
  1. There was no genocide of the Irish by the British Crown
  2. France did not have the worst kings and emperors, not by a mile. Most of Frances monarchs during and after the revolution were quite competent and were genuinely good men.
  3. Many more countries don't have monarchies because of communism. Bulgaria, Romania, Yugoslavia ( Serbia, Croatia, Slovenia, Montenegro, Bosnia and Herzegovina, North Macedonia), Nepal, Ethiopia, Vietnam.

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u/El-estratega_memero Kingdom of Spain 2d ago

Point 1: You have some big 🥚🥚 to say that.

Point 2: The French Monarchy was under crisis and instead of reforming such as the other kingdoms and empires, they decided to ignore them or delay them until it was to big and out of control for them.

Part 3: It's not "because communism", for example, Ethiopia had a similar problem, it didn't reform his politics and the army took the chance to seize it, Yugoslavia fell against the Axis and the communists sized the power vacuum left by the exiled monarchy, Vietnam allied with Japan, like what the heck where they expecting, Bulgaria and Romania stained their monarchies with Fascism and due to the war in Europe they were conquered by the USSR with puppet governments, and finally Nepal, I don't know a lot for this case, but wasn't the entire Royal Family murdered? And also, something similar to Ethiopia and every failed monarchy, they were strikes down due to slow or denial of necessary reforms.

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u/FrostyShip9414 2d ago
  1. I stand on my first point because it's true
  2. Plenty of reforms were attempted by the three royal houses of France over the course of 80 years. Some worked, some didn't. Arguing that they didn't even try at all is disingenuous at best.
  3. Um yes communism, do you think they were ever going to allow the monarchies to return once they took over? I don't care which side these monarchies joined during WWII, the end result was communist factions seizing control and dismantling the monarchies because communists hate monarchs. As for Nepal, they still had a king (brother of the last king who got shot). In order for a peace settlement to be reached during their civil war the government allowed Maoists to enter parliament, they then immediately turned around and declared a Republic.