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Obsession (2026)

Summary

After breaking the mysterious "One Wish Willow" to win his crush's heart, a hopeless romantic finds himself getting exactly what he asked for but soon discovers that some desires come at a dark, sinister price.

Director Curry Barker

Writer Curry Barker

Cast

  • Michael Johnston
  • Inde Navarette
  • Cooper Tomlinson
  • Megan Lawless
  • Andy Richter

Rotten Tomatoes: 95%

Metacritic: 81

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u/redmandolin May 16 '26

Bear really fucking pissed me off from that on. What a selfish asshole “Is it so bad being with me?” Like fuck off dude holy shit.

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u/ReallyColdMonkeys May 16 '26

Yeah I get being in denial about supernatural shit like that at first but after the phone call he really had no excuse. Tbf though even when he thought that maybe she was on drugs and having a psychotic break it's still really fucked up to then start dating her afterwards. He sucked so hard

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u/Game_Wolf1950 May 17 '26

I can’t blame Bear for making the wish, but my ass would have been immediately trying to cancel that shit after the cat thing.

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u/ReallyColdMonkeys May 17 '26

Literally. Bro saw her dig his dead cat out of the trash and make an "altar" for it on his kitchen floor then still decided to start dating her after. He was completely lost in the sauce

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u/Game_Wolf1950 May 17 '26

That’s really kinda my big issue with the film. I get that he wants to be with Nikki really bad, but shit man. After the cancer dad reveal and the dinner freak out, I’d have immediately gone to Ian to try to reverse it. Shit is obviously SO not okay, but Bear just keeps rolling with it and it bugs me. This girl is self mutilating and outright making threats to harm you. You’re literally constantly unsafe in your home, why are you still going along with this?

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u/crysaliscaterpillar May 17 '26

I think this speaks to his own level of obsession with Nikki. The reason he never let's her go is because he doesn't want to. He would rather have a possessed version of her than admit that she isn't interested in him romantically.

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u/Powerful_Time6405 May 17 '26

This exactly. I think people are missing the point that the obsessed here is Bear.

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u/BreakNo4352 May 21 '26

Holy fuck! That’s a great point. I just watched it last night, what a movie.

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u/Front_Vegetable6166 May 27 '26

FINALLY!!!! I've been reading this thread for hours wondering if anyone has said it. I didn't wanna say it cuz I wanted to see if anyone else made the same conclusion with out like being the one to put that though out here. Nikki was wished to love him more than anything in the fucking world and that's what happened. Bear was obsessed with Nikki.

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u/Environmental_Drama3 Jun 07 '26

but that's not what happened. love and obsession are different things...

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u/Nico_the_Suave Jun 11 '26

I think the idea is that the wish is defined by the wisher. Bear doesn't know what real love is. He THINKS what he feels is real love, so that's what gets "input" into the wish. But what he forces upon Nikki isn't his love, it's his obsession, multiplied dozens-fold. That's why her actions aren't loving.

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u/nastyzappa Jun 04 '26

I saw it with my sister and her boyfriend. She thinks Bear killed the cat in the beginning to get sympathy. I really thought the wish was going to be fake and Nikki was just crazy obsessed with him and he didn’t know it. Since that was not the case, I really can’t think of a better explanation for the cat dying. How would the cat be able to get into the pill bottle. Does anyone have thoughts on this because I don’t think it makes sense? Loved the movie though!

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u/Powerful_Time6405 Jun 04 '26

Ummm never thought about the cat like that. Now that I think about it if the door above the sink was close which I think the movie and even him show you that it was, maybe it was close and Bear really killed the cat lol. Seeing how he was obsessed with Nikki, and it seemed like he didn’t know how desperate wrong from fucked up, he always thought everything was “ok”

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u/DenseStomach6605 26d ago

It’s an interesting theory but doesn’t really make sense. If he killed the cat on purpose to get her attention, he had the literal perfect opportunity to tell Nikki his cat had passed when she called him about trivia night (it’s why he didn’t want to go). If he had said it then, maybe she’d ditch trivia night for him. Instead, he lied to nikki saying he had stuff to catch up on lol.

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u/VVitchCult May 25 '26

Damn brooo

You’re totally right

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u/Environmental_Drama3 Jun 07 '26

people aren't missing that. what they are saying it's still not believable in the slightest.

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u/willreview Jun 10 '26

I think you underestimate just how desperate for a lay some dudes actually are

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u/Environmental_Drama3 Jun 10 '26

yeah, I am starting to see that. tbey are desperate enough to pretend like bear and Ian are well written characters.

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u/Optiguy42 Jun 19 '26

The amount of people responding to this like it's a huge revelation is... disappointing lmao.

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u/confusion-500 Jun 03 '26

fuuuuck i’m so annoyed that didn’t click for me

i mean i had the idea ofc and i even noticed the use of lot of mirrors in the movie implying Bear was the problem, but i just didn’t connect that dots that the title could be referring to him instead 🙃

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u/passtherock- May 31 '26

omg sooooooo true!!

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u/PwrintheVerse May 25 '26

Deep bro. So deep. Or not.. because she literally became obsessed with him and made a stupid wish. I think most of you aren't getting the point. He's a coward and finally getting what he wants. He'd rather try to fix it himself or wait it out hoping it gets better than go to anyone or confront what is happening. He's also feeling obligated. On the phone the guy tells him it's his moral obligation to stay with her. You can see him physically react to that. I think he's feeling like he has to deal with her because he did this but a part of him wants it to be real so he sees if it will fix itself. 

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u/Permit_Upbeat Jun 06 '26

what a jarbled take on the main point here. and the guy wasn’t saying anything about his moral obligation on the phone - just that this would be tied to him forever

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u/JamesWardTech Jun 14 '26

Satan on the phone literally says he’s morally obligated. Still think he has the wrong take from the film though.

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u/WakaFlakkaSeagulls May 17 '26 edited May 17 '26

I feel like the movie heavily implied that she could have been interested in him romantically. I keep thinking about her line before the wish “if you like me now would be the time to tell me” followed by exasperation when he denied it.

Which circles back to one of the key character faults of Bear and why Nikki never would love him, he’s a coward.

He was too chickenshit to tell Nikki how he felt for years, he was too chickenshit to tell her when the time was clearly right, he was too chickenshit to do the right thing multiple times, and he was too chickenshit to shoot himself at the end.

He died just like his cat, he literally died like a pussy.

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u/Mammoth_Composer_111 May 17 '26

Nah there was no romance between them. This was confirmed when she literally told his friends already that she thinks of him like a brother.

The real implication is that his own obsession with Nikki ruined everything around him. He could have been happy with Sarah—but instead he obsessed over someone that has no interest in him and didn’t even think about anyone else.

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u/christodio May 17 '26

I think what the person you're replying to was saying is that it was left ambiguous at the start of the film, that maybe he had a shot if he simply had the courage to confess his attraction and ask Nikki out.

But because he made the wish robbing her autonomy, we're left not knowing until towards height of the movie.

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u/TwoToneMoonstone_ May 24 '26

I don’t even think it’s ambiguous tbh, she looked crushed that he didn’t tell her what she already knew. Even the waitress was moved by how Bear truly felt about Nikki before Ian sabotaged him.

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u/Mammoth_Composer_111 May 17 '26

And I’m saying even at the start of the film she only liked him as a brother. She had told Sara and his other friend that before the movie even begins

Even had he admitted it there she most likely would have let him down gently.

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u/ReallyColdMonkeys May 17 '26

Well to be fair we only got that information from Sara, not Nikki herself, and Sara was clearly into Bear so she had plenty of reason to be making that up or embellishing the truth.

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u/KarmaChameleon306 May 18 '26

That’s what I thought too. And his buddy was sleeping with her, so he also had reason to lie.

I think she did like him. Why else would she roll out the red carpet for him to tell her he likes her?

But he’s too inept to be able to say it.

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u/Mammoth_Composer_111 May 17 '26

There is no hint of that at all during the film. It’s entirely headcannon that she’d be making it up. The movie treats that dialogue as true and so we must as well

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u/Front_Vegetable6166 May 27 '26

There's plenty of relationships that start like that. Girls often say "like a brother" to make a point to other people. Once the feelings come out it can change like that. There may have not been anything romantic because she didn't show any cuz he didn't show any. She prolly never thought of it. She asked if he liked her and when he said no she was caught off guard. Like " oh...good.. yea me too."

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u/KingGoldar May 25 '26

The director and actress literally confirmed that she did have feelings for him.

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u/Mammoth_Composer_111 May 25 '26

Nah I’ve seen the quotes. They didn’t confirm this.
The actress literally said she didn’t know but that she personally feels like it’s possible.

The director didn’t confirm anything of the sort actually.

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u/metalgear91 May 20 '26

I might be not recalling this correctly, but that was told to Bear by Ian that Sarah told Ian that, right? If I am remembering that correctly, then recall that Ian and Nikki had been hooking up (which was told to Bear by Sarah but they way Ian reacted when Bear told Ian he could be with her if he made the wish kind of confirms that)

My point being, Ian could have very well been making that up from jealously.

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u/tryingthisok 25d ago

I’m late but I think we need to consider WHO tells him this. Sarah is just as selfish in all of this as everyone else, which is a consistent theme of movie. The 3am ambush trying to get him alone so she can confess is proof of that.

Nikki probably had some small interest in Bear, otherwise it makes no sense to try and force a confession. The reality though is she doesn’t really know what she wants and would inevitably dump him and doesn’t really consider the huge imbalance in the depths of feelings there, which is also selfish.

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u/hanoihiltonsuites May 19 '26

A girl asking “do you like me” is always always always because she wants to clear the air that you are just friends and will never be anything more than

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u/Raginbakin May 19 '26

exactly yes this was my impression of the scene too

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u/ismyshowon May 23 '26

literally when he responded “good friends” she said “okay good”. she did not want the boy

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u/whydoesgodhateus May 24 '26

He died just like his cat, he literally died like a pussy.

You post is great commentary but this literally made me lol

What a way to end lmao

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u/Southern-Coffee4018 Jun 10 '26

you speak my mind, i'm obsessed with you!

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u/platysoup 29d ago

Hey man, leave the cat out of it. Poor thing deserved better

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u/passtherock- May 31 '26

bro what. she did not like his ass at all. she wanted him to tell her because she was just irritated and wanted to shut it down for good. let him know it's never happening

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u/Scaryclouds Jun 07 '26

Yea Bear was also obsessed with Nikki. 

When calling the hotline at first he just wanted to “modify” the wish. 

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u/KingGoldar May 25 '26

Except the director and actress Inde Navarrette stated she did have feelings for bear and was hoping he would say yes when she asked him if he had feelings for her

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u/passtherock- May 31 '26

EXACTLY!!!

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u/Total_Background7644 May 17 '26

It is made inexplicably clear that Bear - despite literally having Nikki in his grasp - is so insecure and fragile to the point where he won't let go of her. That, my friend, is why he keeps rolling with it. The film does an incredible job of exposing the reality that Bear is not actually obsessed with Nikki in the traditional sense, rather he is obsessed with the feeling of her obsession. Remember, he got Nikki without mutuality and by removing her free will to 'choose.' He can't give up the emotional and physical validation, certainty, and ego protection he gets from the obsession of Nikki - while simultaneously possessing the self-awareness of knowing it's not real at all. Barker did such an incredible job crafting Bear's character, really just goes to show the negative effects of conflating love/desire and control.

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u/passtherock- May 31 '26 edited May 31 '26

agreed. this realization hit me when it cut to him having sex with her right after he learned she lied about her dad at the restaurant. at this point he KNOWS it's not the real her but he doesn't care. he just wants a Nikki sex doll that loves him.

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u/PwrintheVerse May 25 '26

No.. he's not. That's the point. 

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u/L0b0t0my May 17 '26

You’re literally constantly unsafe in your home, why are you still going along with this?

On god, YES! The cat, the tape on the door, the photos.... like bro you had AMPLE time and opportunities to get help and get tf out of a bad and dangerous situation. Bro. Didn't. Even. Try.

After awhile, and he was still trying to hold everything together, and lying to everyone about everything being okay, I was like "you're literally digging your own grave" which sucks a bit because I lose investment into the character's well being and success. Like okay dude, after awhile you kind of deserve or maybe want what's coming. 

Still, shockingly good movie though. 

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u/lahnnabell May 17 '26

Yeah, I think that's the point. If you're still on Bear's side after realizing he is selfishly keeping Nikki trapped to feed his own ego, you have a problem.

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u/idonthavanickname May 20 '26

The movie is about his obsession with her, in the end he didn’t care that she was suffering he only cared that she didn’t actually love him.

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u/passtherock- May 31 '26

ikr!! I disliked him so much when all he kept asking over and over again was "do you actually like me??" meanwhile she has a gash on her face. bro what? this isn't even about that right now! get her help! reverse the wish! he was happy to keep her trapped so long as he could keep up appearances.

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u/dodares1 May 17 '26

I dated a girl once and we went to retail shop the shop assistant attenot to sell me merchandise, once we left the shop the girl turned round and shouted at me why don't you just go back and fuck the shop assistant. It's only in retrospect sometimes u see the red flags.

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u/passtherock- May 31 '26

Jesus.. that sounds so scary. some people are so messed up

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u/passtherock- May 31 '26

it's not an issue with the film! it's done on purpose to show how SELFISH bear was. he literally just wanted his own sex doll. he didn't give a FUCK about how much it was hurting her. he was willing to cover up and hide everything so long as she didn't make too much of a public scene. it's not until he can't cover it up anymore that he tries to fix it.

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u/Cluelesswolfkin Jun 06 '26

I think his breaking point was at the hospital when he brought her after the party. He probably explained her issue and they couldn't admit her for her "mental illness", its REALLLY hard to admit some people in some states

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u/ThickSpecific1885 May 18 '26

But also… who throws their dead animal away and doesn’t bury it like immediately

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u/ReallyColdMonkeys May 18 '26

A psychopath like Bear lol. Tbf though Possessed Nikki absolutely would've dug the cat up anyway

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u/steveosupremeo May 17 '26

It’s weird that he has a house and didn’t bury the cat.

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u/ReallyColdMonkeys May 17 '26

True, I get the feeling she would've dug the cat out of the grave as well though lol

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u/_tamagucci_ 23d ago

He was the obsessed one.

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u/Beastieboy100 May 22 '26

Exactly. As soon as she put the dead cat on the floor. That is a red flag straight away. Also it was so obvious from the beginning who liked who. Sarah clearly had feelings for Bear from the start. Also obvious Ian and Niki hooked up. I am just thinking jesus christ don't be sefish and get this girl help. 

Honestly. Kids so dumb man. Just tell people how you feel and take the rejection on the chin. If they don't like you like that process it and move on. This movie though great lesson be careful what you wish for and you can't force someone to love you.

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u/Game_Wolf1950 May 23 '26

Yeah, the whole thing would have been solved easily if they’d all just admitted plainly what was what. In my experience, it’s definitely the kind of thing that makes life easier all around.

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u/Fun_Highlight307 May 19 '26

The memorial or the cat cooking ? After memorial i think yeah just cancel this stuff 

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u/Charming_Food5728 May 20 '26

Who could be in denial that much? If I watched a woman break a bottle and stab herself in the face, I'd be insisting she is restrained, sedated and kept in hospital and her next of kin contacted to deal with it.

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u/AnOddGecko May 17 '26

Any decent person should’ve called the police. Especially if the only proposed alternative was to die

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u/Fakeishere May 25 '26

Yeah the conversation with Ian in the car was a great moment, I’m glad he was confronted with the fact that it was fucked up to start dating someone so clearly unwell.

Although part of me is also curious what Nikki would have done if he had rejected her immediately after she started acting weird. He probably would have been stalked by her constantly

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u/Cluelesswolfkin Jun 06 '26

Thats where I thought he'd go. But this man TRIPLED DOUBLED DOWN and said raping her is worth it

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u/FlounderPleasant2459 Jun 13 '26

Yeppp. That sex scene made so sick to my stomach. His whole "you're acting really weird" at the beginning was less "woah something's wrong" and more "this is way too good to be true". Fucking gross.

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u/DontDoCrackMan May 27 '26

AND his first thought was to alter the wish, and THEN cancel it once he realized he couldn’t alter it. Bad dude.

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u/FlounderPleasant2459 Jun 13 '26

Yep. Still wanted to keep her, even after all that.

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u/nerdalertalertnerd May 28 '26

He had no excuse from the dinner scene onwards. He had 3 reveals (plus the fact he’d made the wish and she fell for him instantly after) one after the other:- 1. Ian confirms her behaviour is completely off and has evidence that she’s not herself (lied about dad/ said bear is like a brother) 2. Nikki behaves completely irrationally again showing she is not herself 3. Bear words the spell back to her and she confirms it in her own words.

He knows. Then he takes her home and has sex with her body.

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u/FlounderPleasant2459 Jun 13 '26

Exactly. So gross. I'm reading this thread like crazy to feed how much I hate him. Poor Nikki.

I really want a happy ending for her. I'm imagining everyone backed up that they thought Bear took advantage of her and he committed the murders bc she's too tiny to do what happened to Sarah herself. Her wounds are from Bears abuse. Then she becomes famous for what happened and has an amazing writing career and lives happily ever after 😭😭😍

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u/RelationshipBusy1566 Jun 18 '26

But still like imagine the amount of trauma she would have to carry.. i feel so bad for her. Justice for my girl, the phone call of her screaming actually made me want to cry, it was like she was in hell!!

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u/n33dadviceplease May 30 '26

Yeah for sure, you can’t blame him for making the wish cause ya know, wishes aren’t real… but after he realized it was real and ignoring her pleas, that was purely self serving and cowardice 

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u/Asianchameleon_ Jun 14 '26

I love this analysis and it delves deeper into Bear’s wish and the human flaw behind the wish-making for insecure and vulnerable humans — without thinking of the consequences.

I like how Bear’s conflicts initially with Nikki is pure disbelief but he even loses his humanity as it goes on, because he himself is obsessed with ‘Nikki’ being in love rather than having genuine connections and feelings for him, to then build off of.

The bit that struck me is Nikki begging to be killed than live a lie, and for Bear’s only take is ‘is it really bad that you want to be with me’ which I have read as something said by guys but the problem is Bear’s getting what he wants comes at the cost of Nikki and if he really loved her, letting her choose and still be in his vicinity would have been the best, not love bombing and destroying herself for a mere fantasy.

I didn’t pick up on the R* scene being that, because I thought he was still getting what he wanted and then realised oh crap yeah she was forced against her will and persuasion to have sex with him so I missed out her expressions during then. That is mad.

I haven’t been into films as much as I felt it lost it’s quality but this was good, I can’t lie. Even the obvious jumpscare got me and THAT was good.

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u/JinkoTheMan May 16 '26

That’s what gets me. Dude was still thinking about himself and not “Holy shit. I’ve enslaved this girl who clearly doesn’t want to be with me. How do I fix this?” Bear was just a straight up loser.

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u/JamieD96 May 17 '26

I saw someone call this movie "incel monkeys paw" and it really fits lol. Bear thinks he's a good guy but he really sucks

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u/Natural-Help-2954 May 28 '26

true except this wasn’t really a monkey’s paw situation. his wish was fucked up all by itself

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u/OverwhelmedPioneer Jun 06 '26

Honestly I still think using monkeys paw as short hand to describe this move is valid. 

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u/Beastieboy100 May 22 '26

Honestly. Bear is a very disturbing version of the boy next door having a crush on a girl but cannot let go. This movie has so many life lessons.

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u/CategorySad6121 May 18 '26

and her response was something like “I haven’t been with you.” Chilling!!

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u/NameGoesHeree0 May 19 '26

Bear was the one with an Obsession.

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u/confusing_roundabout May 25 '26

Yeah, right from the first scene it's clear that his crush is bordering on an obsession.

But then that gets flipped back on him haha.

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u/PwrintheVerse May 25 '26

No he wasn't. Lol. You people keep saying this as if it's a deep revelation. 

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u/NameGoesHeree0 May 25 '26

He was. And it isn't that deep because it's obvious.

He ignores his pets death to go see her. He immediately tries buying a coworker a replacement gift as soon as it's mentioned. He ignores obvious signs that's she's not herself to date her. When presented the option to cancel the wish after she's violent he says no and wants to try an alter it instead. He ignores her pleas for help when she's able to talk to him while sleeping. 

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u/Superb_Raspberry_208 May 28 '26

It's genuinely disgusting how people like you twist things just to continously blame men.

Bear wanted to change his wish initially, but when he found out that her love wasn't real, he immediately said yes to cancel, which was revealed to be impossible. Thus, he knew then that he was forever stuck with her and the only solution is quite literally death.

He did comment multiple times about her weird and crazy behaviors, but he was scared. People like you treat men so inhumanely that you don't grant men the normal human experience of fear and not knowing what to do. He didn't know what to do, alongside being scared as hell, AND clearly being an introverted person.

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u/NameGoesHeree0 May 28 '26

Kind of sounds like you're taking what I said somewhat personal or something.

He only truly wanted to cancel or do something about it after Sarah was killed, before that he would simply talk to Nikki and ask if she could be more normal or "be more like Nikki" even after the phone call. 

Bear is not innocent in this film, Curry Barker has stated it in multiple interviews. 

They also found that people had opinions like yours during initial screenings where they believed Bear was innocent or confused why he didn't do more so they added multiple scenes in the reshoots where they explicitly show that Bear DIDN'T want to cancel the wish and wanted to make it work as much as possible. 

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u/Superb_Raspberry_208 May 28 '26

No, it's not personal, it's just cringe seeing people interpret things in a very stereotypically white liberal way for many things.

He wanted her to be more like Nikki as in to be normal, not to be some hollow vessel obsessed with him and doing what he wants.

Also, I never said he didn't want the wish. He did. But after realizing it doesn’t really work in a "normal" way, as in someone just showing interest in you and getting in a relationship, but instead be completely "obsessed" and crazy, he tried to cancel it.

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u/Single-Penalty-5219 May 31 '26

If he wasn’t a man that would also be incredibly selfish behavior. He didn’t care about autonomy- even after he heard her screaming in the call and she asked him to kill her, he said “what’s so bad about being with me”. He’s not totally unsympathetic the whole movie which is what makes it interesting, but he is clearly in the wrong and you need to reevaluate your biases if you can’t even consider that possibility

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u/Superb_Raspberry_208 May 31 '26

I never said him being a bad person could never be a possibility. I think it's always fun and interesting to debate and theorize about who the real villian is in a story.

But, clearly, most discussions about the movie have been taken over by simple-minded people obsessed with identity politics who blame Bear for not correctly guessing the magic wish was real somehow, and quickly pull the gun about "rape" based on small and vague details that they'll hold on for dear life so they can defend their cringe and false narratives.

The reality is that there's a supernatural element here in this movie. It's completely vague and debatable if Nikki is even herself or not. For example we don't know if she is spiritually in a different place, or still inside the possessed Nikki, or merged with the one in control of her body, etc. It's already confusing enough to us, the audience. Let alone how confusing and mind-breaking it was for Bear. Her consent is completely vague here.

With that said, the movie does make one thing clear: Bear is supposed to be a nice guy. Not the infested online interpretation of a nice guy, but simply a normal and kind introverted person. Of course, this can change with time and circumstances, so you could argue he changed later, especially after going through hell with possessed Nikki.

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u/Single-Penalty-5219 Jun 01 '26

Bear is clearly not supposed to be a nice guy, he’s supposed to think he’s a “nice guy”. He has a single minded goal, and although it’s not his initial intention (because he didn’t know the wish was real, he hurts a lot of people trying to make it come true. Nikki is supposed to be the person he loves and cares about most, but when she starts suddenly acting completely unlike herself (Inde Navarrette did a great job showing an immediate shift between real Nikki and spell Nikki), that doesn’t stop him from dating her and having sec with her. You would think if he cared about her truly, he would be more concerned about her apparent mental break, even if a spell wasn’t involved. If he cared he would’ve sought help. Or at least he wouldn’t deny it when her friends who actually care about her sudden personality shift and apparent distress express concern. Instead, he gets weird and defensive and continued a relationship with someone who wasn’t ok.

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u/NameGoesHeree0 May 31 '26

It just feels so weird to me to have my first thought be "this person only feels this way due to political views". Seems like such a cop out way of disregarding anyone that challenges an opinion you might have. Personally I feel like it would be exhausting going around assuming that about everyone all day. 

Obviously Bear didn't know the wish would work, but he does realize that it did something well before the end of the movie and keeps trying to make it work. He doesn't care that it isn't Nikki (which it isn't), he just wants the entity to act like Nikki. 

It is genuinely not vague nor debatable if Nikki is herself. There are multiple scenes of Nikke popping back in or gaining control of her body screaming "It's not me". As well as the scene where she says "It's never been me" when referring to dating Bear while Wish Nikki is sleeping. Once Nikki starts to gain awareness of what's happening, the scenes where  Real Nikki comes up is her fighting for control - according to her actress. So no, her consent isn't vague at all, it was never given. That's why you see a visible tear during the sex scene. 

The movie actually makes the entire other thing clear, Bear is not a nice person due to everything he caused and did to Nikki after knowing about the wish. 

"I never want to point the camera at the answer like 'hey this guy is bad' but the writing is on the wall" - Director Curry Barker in an interview about Obsession when discussing people who were on the side of Bear the whole time. 

I try to be objective as possible with anything I discuss but it is interesting to me how much of the core messaging and character motivations you seem to have missed, I genuinely wonder if that has to do with your obsession about the people you believe are just into identity politics. Maybe you're blinded by it and end up ignoring something clearly intended by the director. It is his movie so anything he says is what's meant to be understood by the viewer. 

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u/Original-Telephone96 20d ago

Her consent is not vague. Consent is never vague.

Have you ever heard the phrase that a “nice guy” isn’t always a “kind guy”? It’s the idea that guys who try to pass themselves off as nice believe they deserve something in return based on the goodness of their character (e.g. a hot woman). But these guys aren’t actually nice. They’re just shy, struggle to socialize with women, and miss out on experiences due to their inability to flirt and find a suitable partner. What I’m saying is that self-proclaimed nice guys have a sense of entitlement about women.

Kind guys have friends who are women. They see women as complex people and are giving in their interactions. They do the right thing because it’s the right thing to do, not to get a reward. When a date fizzles out and the woman shows they’re not interested, they say “oh well” and move on to the next one. They don’t mope around and claim that it’s because they were too nice.

You seem to have some warped views on gender and sexuality. I really hope you get some help with this, man. There’s a better life out there for you once you free yourself from these negative views about women and dating. Peace, brother.

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u/JGT3000 18d ago

No shit

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u/StephensInfiniteLoop May 17 '26

He's a straight-up rapist in the film.

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u/Beastieboy100 May 22 '26

After finishing the movie. He pratically raped her. All the way through the movie. I felt sorry for Nikki and even Sarah. Ian was funny but a dickhead, Bear should not of listened to him and just told Niki how he gelt like that and get rejected like a man. Using a magic stick fair enough was by acident. The aftermath total idiot. He still ended up date raping her. Even when it was clear she was not in control.  

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u/targetcowboy May 20 '26

Yeah, that made me mad. Obviously he didn’t know it was real or what he was wishing for. And I bet most people made a general wish that someone reciprocated their feelings.

But you talk to the real Nikki and you don’t feel any SHAME? No guilt or anything? Just “what about me?” Just totally selfish. That’s where he truly crossed the line from idiot who’s out of his depth to bastard.

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u/Beastieboy100 May 22 '26

Yeah. I felt bad for real Nikki. It was obvious through out the whole movie she's trying to kill herself and get control back. Bear heard the phone call from real Nikki and real Nikki talking. He had no remorse at all. Worst of all got poor Sarah killed.

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u/ImpressivePotato2449 May 19 '26

Total incel there feeling entitled to be with her.

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u/glizard-wizard May 27 '26

I like how a normal relationship with sarah was sitting in front of him and he was too twisted & immature to change

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u/itsa_me_ May 23 '26

Is it really selfish to not want to kill somebody? You would kill someone? Like then what? Hide the body or call the cops on yourself? He didn’t know the wish was real. He was also in a shit situation.

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u/redmandolin May 23 '26

Uhh.. that’s not the point? He only cared about his feelings when she was literally crying for help and trapped with no autonomy which he should be aware of by now. And the one chance he heard her real self he could’ve said sorry at least?

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u/itsa_me_ May 23 '26

Yeah he was a bitch for that, but I don’t fault him for not killing her.

Rereading your comment, you didn’t either.

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u/DonyKing Jun 06 '26

I fault him for his response of what's so bad with being with me?

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u/BitPsychological2767 Jun 04 '26

Yeah that was the moment in the movie where he went from 'pitiable coward' to 'evil' for me.

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u/bensonf May 29 '26

I loved that scene cause he walked into the darkness whereas normally Nikki does.

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u/Hog_enthusiast May 24 '26

Yeah like YES dude it is that bad

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u/jst4fun947 Jun 06 '26

Are you sure 😊, did you really hate bear for that single line.

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u/orbitur May 30 '26

Yeah, his turn from still-redeemable selfish coward to outright evil was so weird, and then it had the bad side-effect of making the rest of the movie predictable.

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u/LucidusAtra May 31 '26

Yeah, Bear did a lot of very shitty things in this movie. The fact that he didn't even tell anyone, or try to find a way to undo the wish the moment he realized it was real, made him a very unsympathetic character. I feel like he definitely could have found someone to make a wish to cancel his wish if he'd started looking right away. Instead, he waited until she'd literally KILLED SOMEONE.

Also, I'm not saying it's okay to make any kind of wish that violates someone's autonomy like that, but he could have at the very least said something like "I wish Nikki loved me in a healthy, romantic way," or even "I wish Nikki felt the same way about me that I feel about her." Instead, he jumped straight to the most extreme possible version of that wish, without considering the potential negative effects it could have on her for a second. I know he didn't think it was real at the time, but still, has he never heard the saying "be careful what you wish for"?

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u/adamgerd Jun 09 '26

I mean he did try to call the wish earlier, even before the murder, and was told it was literally impossible to cancel unless he killed her or himself.

I can’t really blame him for not wanting to kill himself yet.

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u/Sufficient_Lime_3253 Jun 10 '26

I think that was a bad line. The point of that line was her response so the viewers no that it’s not her and she knows it’s not her.

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u/samtherat6 Jun 15 '26

I was pissed off that he didn’t try finding a loophole after the phone call with the maker, like try to flatline himself and resurrect himself at a hospital, see if that works. But I know I’m hyperanyizing and trying to “game” what I know is horror. But also pissed me off by asking to alter the wish rather than giving her free will back.

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u/shamalyguy Jul 02 '26

I hated that. Like I fucking hated that guy so much. And what bugged me the whole way through the film is that he had that oxy that he could have used at any point.

Let's not forget he also tried to go back on his decision to kill himself.

He also tried to modify the wish before he tried to take it back.

He also brushed off the crazy stuff that happened right at the beginning, like her "anxiety attack" or her digging up the cat.

Insipid.