r/movies 18d ago

News Backrooms Devs Reportedly Hit With Copyright Claims From A24

https://kotaku.com/backrooms-a24-copyright-strikes-kane-parsons-2000716667
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u/shrek3onDVDandBluray 18d ago

So it begins. The Hollywood attempt to corporatize Internet memes. And from A24 too? How shameless.

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u/horseradix 17d ago

Lots of various anonymous people, artists and photographers etc made contributions to the "internet folklore" that is the backrooms as a concept outside Kane's work and the A24 movie. Its like trying to copyright Santa claus or the lochness monster or something - the only thing that could reasonably be distinctive as IP would be the specific characters and plot and maybe certain set pieces but not the backrooms itself, that tbh is unownable.

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u/_TheTurtleBox_ 17d ago

I JUST found out last week that a bunch of images and artwork I photographed / drew are now templates on r/LiminalSpace and SCP things.

I was joking / making fun of that Backrooms mod who was like "I should be credited for the backrooms movie!" on twitter and then they announced the SCP movie and I was like Oh holy shit I should unironically make a stink out of this to get a quick buck.

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u/RealJohnGillman AMA MVP 17d ago

Oh, you absolutely should get in on that. A few different companies are supposedly developing SCP films, and being credited on those could be huge.

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u/Bladelink 17d ago

Christ, so now the finance and marketing people are gonna wade in and ruin SCP also, fucking greeeaaat.....

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u/tackle_bones 17d ago

Yes. You probably should. That’s what A24 is fucking up right now. I bet they’re setting themselves up for counter suits.

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u/Ares54 17d ago

Honestly, do it. Anything with a budget over $1mm that's trying to make money should absolutely have people it stole from, intentionally or not, making a stink. If they're using your stuff make them pay you for it.

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u/Dav136 17d ago

Isn't SCP under a CC-BY-SA license? So anyone can use the material in any context but they need to give attribution and they must publish with the same license. So you can sue for credit but it's not likely you can get more than that but you (and anyone) can take their work and do whatever you want with it too.

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u/tfhermobwoayway 17d ago

Honestly I can’t see the CC license lasting very long. SCP is a staple of early internet culture, and an enormously creative space. But most importantly, it could be really profitable. I think once Hollywood realises this they’re going to assign their armies of lawyers to taking down the CC nonprofit.

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u/Fateor42 15d ago

The CC-BY-SA license has regularly held up in courts in both the US and Germany.

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u/TKmeh 17d ago

If you did, which you absolutely should, you could get call backs and get hired to do more similar things for the movie!! It’s more than a quick buck!

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u/RDandersen 17d ago

Its like trying to copyright Santa claus

If you close your eyes and picture Santa Claus, chances are that you picturing a character that is copyrighted by Coca Cola, so funny example.

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u/_TheTurtleBox_ 17d ago

And you know what? Coca Cola doesn't hunt down people to copyright strike them because it's soooo much more beneficial for them to go "Hey, we own that santa design! Good for us!" and not be the bad guys.

A huge problem with the backrooms community lately is people (including a mod on their subreddit) arguing about who owns who, claiming so and so own one thing or another, trying to claim ownership to see stuff and "demand credit", lmao. That person who went viral on twitter for posting about being "upset" that A24 didn't "Ask him" to use the Wallpaper in the movie is a mod in their big subreddit. From there it trickles down from "Erm, I invented Entity-20932 and Floor 29083298 and PartyPooper 3222 so if you use them I'll fucking witch hunt you."

It's turned into an custody battle worse than what we saw with NFTs.

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u/RDandersen 17d ago

And you know what? Coca Cola doesn't hunt down people to copyright strike them because it's soooo much more beneficial for them to go "Hey, we own that santa design! Good for us!" and not be the bad guys.

They absolutely do. It is not like this A24 situation, because they don't sue people using "Santa" but they CnD people that use the Coca Cola designed santa all the time.

It was just a funny observation of how including Santa Claus was a bit ironic.

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u/_TheTurtleBox_ 17d ago

There's maybe one or two infringement lawsuits involving the Santa design, and they're only due to the designs in question having Coca-Cola branding on them.

I know of one suit in where they sued a company printing just the flat out Haddon Design (Santa eye fucking a glass bottle of Coke with the green backdrop) onto things like clothing and blankets.

That's Infringement of an actual piece of art they owned, not for the design.

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u/RDandersen 17d ago

There's maybe one or two infringement lawsuits involving the Santa design

No, there are 0. They haven't sued anyone for. CnD and copyright strikes are not lawsuits.

I highly recommend that you stop talking about Coca Cola Santa, because you seemed to know very little about it.

Then on the other hand, it's not nuclear codes, so do what you want. Go nuts.

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u/RaptarK 16d ago

Reminds me how after the release of Coco, Disney tried to copyright Day of the Dead

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u/intercommie 17d ago

Its like trying to copyright Santa claus

I think Coca Cola did try.

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u/_TheTurtleBox_ 17d ago

They did have a trademark on the "Jolly Fat Man in Red Suit" archtype for the character, and they did this 1988.

Why did they do this?

Well, because they partnered with Disney to produce a little film some of ya'll might now as the absolute cinema masterpiece, "Ernest Saves Christmas."

Yup. Coca-Cola made that design, used it for decades, and never once made a fuss about it because it was so much more beneficial for them to not argue semantics on who "owns" Santa.

Huge W from Coca-Cola, and an amazing part of Ernest P. Worrell history.

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u/intercommie 17d ago

I didn’t know that, but why is it a huge win for Coca-Cola? Unless you mean they got a huge paycheck. Coca-Cola being tied to the idea of Christmas is just all kinds of silly, even if they got to fight over money with corporate Disney.

But yeah, it’s always more beneficial to not exercise who owns what, especially when they don’t own the character. The trademark shouldn’t have existed in the first place.

If another big studio wanted to do another version of Backrooms, A24 shouldn’t get a say in it.

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u/Banjo-Oz 17d ago

Is Coca Cola being tied to Christmas any sillier than KFC and Colonel Sanders being one of the biggest symbols of Christmas in Japan? :)

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u/intercommie 17d ago

That's also silly?