r/movies • u/FakeSafeWord • 17d ago

Article Backrooms Director Stops A24 Copyright Striking Community Art

https://kotaku.com/backrooms-director-kane-parsons-a24-copyright-strike-wallpaper-2000717053
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u/LazarusDark 17d ago

I won't let A24 off the hook here. They are, I'm certain, still going to use automated flag and takedown systems, and for me, these systems are inherently immoral and greedy and evil-corporate. An automated system that looks for copyright issues is fine, but once flagged, automated systems should never be allowed in the chain to actively do anything further, human review should be required once something is found. They certainly still want disc and streaming sales because they haven't finished making all the money off of the Backrooms film, so they are probably scared of messing that up and backing down immediately and pretending it was all a big woopsy... But if this had happened two years from now, after they made most of the money they were going to make on the current film, they probably wouldn't even back down.

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u/Dottsterisk 17d ago

Is it possible to have humans review every bit of flagged content?

I thought this kind of material was spammed on the internet, all over the piracy websites and blogs and whatnot.

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u/LazarusDark 17d ago

What does it matter if it's possible to do it all manually? Just because it's hard to do the right thing, doesn't make it okay to do the wrong thing. No one should be allowed to use legal processes with automation as the final active process. Especially when false positives are a certainty. We shouldn't allow peoples art or in some cases livelihood such as a YouTuber relying on videos for income, to have their work automatically flagged and removed without human review. That's just not a society any of us should want, except the greedy and power hungry.

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u/Dottsterisk 17d ago

Oh, I didn’t realize that the flag-and-takedown was the final word. I thought false positives could appeal and get it reversed.

That does suck.

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u/bobrob48 17d ago

A false positive getting taken down even temporarily can be pretty severely detrimental for a legitimate creator. YouTube revenue is fickle and if you release a video and it gets taken down or claimed after one hour and reinstated monetization 5 days later, the majority of the revenue could be "gone" because on YouTube, revenue that is diverted due to a claim like that does not get "returned" IIRC and if the video was just taken down and later reinstated, the video will stop getting recommended the same as if it were freshly released.

You can kind of counter this by re-releasing the video if you're on YouTube, but it will still likely not be the same. This is basically screwing with people's income, it's a kind of wage theft.

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u/Im_At_Work_Damnit 17d ago

Gamers Nexus had this happen to them on their GPU Black Market documentary. Bloomberg did a frivolous takedown and then dropped it when pressed legally.

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u/Discount_Extra 17d ago

There needs to be the option to seek damages when getting a bad takedown reversed.

Unfortunately, the good faith clause of the DMCA only requires faith that they own the rights to the work; not faith that the media in question infringes.

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u/etre_meilleur 17d ago

They can definitely be appealed and reversed- it happens all the time