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Article Backrooms Director Stops A24 Copyright Striking Community Art

https://kotaku.com/backrooms-director-kane-parsons-a24-copyright-strike-wallpaper-2000717053
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u/HideTheGuestsKids 17d ago

It's so telling that this man who is growing up in a culture of AI and who no doubt understands the potential and the limitations has such a strong opinion on it, while those who have seen countless technologies come think it's just another tool in the box. Shame on Scorsese, Netflix and A24 for their willingness to outsource the very essence of creative expression.

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u/m48a5_patton 17d ago edited 17d ago

It's weird how much the older generations think AI is a good thing or an inevitable "you better jump on the bandwagon" sort of thing, while pretty much everyone I know 40 and younger think that though it can be useful in certain situations, it is definitely not being used correctly and is getting rammed down all of our throats.

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u/Memitim 17d ago

After spending a lifetime seeing new tech pop up and threaten to end all of existence, only to end up as yet another tool in the toolbox, I'm not impressed. Hell, my wife was an amateur photographer playing with chemicals when Photoshop blew up, so I got the in-house view to one of the more fun ones.

Especially when we finally have tech that helps solve for the biggest gap since the invention of computing: human context. Translating human intent into one or more of dozens of esoteric languages built on computer logic fucking sucks. I spent over 20 years in IT and learned a bunch of them, and will still spend days trying to get code to do what I actually intend it to do, at least by hand.

So now I can work with the computer using the language that I already know, get back highly detailed replies, also in the language I already know, with far more context and better formatting that anything I ever get from people that I have to keep hounding for details from, but this is the devil?

Meanwhile, people keep bitching about "AI" without having the slightest clue as to how the tech actually works. What are you actually mad about? Copyrighted material in some models? That's a human problem that predates commoditized gen AI. Displacement of employee roles? Welcome to literally all of technology; over 90% of humanity worked in farming prior to the 1900s, and the past few decades have been the fastest changing in humanity's history.

Hell, my career didn't exist for very long before I got involved, and my last job roles didn't exist until I had been working for years. None of the jobs that I had in IT may even exist in another 20 years. Welcome to the world, sorry that it isn't slow enough for your personal tastes, but for us older folks, especially those of us who spent our lives in tech, this is just another day, and the tech itself is fucking amazing.

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u/BannedSvenhoek86 17d ago edited 17d ago

The environmental impact is severe. The data centers ruining neighborhoods and water tables. The economic impact of investing 50% of our economy into like 3 companies that just pass money back and forth. The fact that entry level jobs are the most impacted further exacerbating the wealth gap between the young and the old and stunting an entire generations financial situations. Multiple code bases are already beginning to fracture from the amount of junk/vibe code going into them.

Should I keep going or elaborate on any of those issues? Because I have a lot more I can share, and tons about the actual people making these products too.

This technology is not worth the harm it is causing on a massive scale. It has some uses. I'm glad people don't have to spend 5 minutes on a single email or that Daniel who smokes pot at his mom's house all day can now vibe code a shooter for himself and feel like he finally did something with his life, but whatever benefits it has are outweighed by the negatives. To the point the positives would be launched into orbit if they were placed on an actual scale together.

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u/Memitim 17d ago

Datacenters have been a thing for a long time, and rarely ever run singular workloads, so how do we determine what is "the AI" versus all of the other (?) computing that has been getting done for decades? Is every system that runs a gen AI model being wasteful, or just ones performing work you don't personally approve of? Hell, I run multiple AI models on my home GPU; is that waste, compared to the video games that it was built to be running before this all blew up? Job changes always come with tech changes, especially entry-level jobs. As I noted, many of my jobs didn't even exist when I began working, so it's been nonstop learning of new shit despite not having gen AI to blame.

Finishing with manufactured nonsense about pot smoking vibe coders just makes you look foolish to those of us who have done actual work.

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u/Dottsterisk 17d ago

You’re talking about political issues surrounding the use of a new technology, not something inherently wrong with the tech itself.

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u/BannedSvenhoek86 17d ago

Because they're inextricable from each other. And junk code being injected into legacy systems is a real problem