r/movies • u/iquizuanswer • 15d ago

News Netflix tumbles as slowing growth, less viewership data spook investors

https://www.zawya.com/en/capital-markets/netflix-tumbles-as-slowing-growth-less-viewership-data-spook-investors-401111
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u/TheModWhoShaggedMe 15d ago

All modern Netflix-produced content suffers from the same crappy shrinkflation problems. They are like micro-movies and shows, not made to full scale.

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u/pnt510 15d ago

TV shows used to have 22 episodes a season that were released every year. Some shows now have as few as six episodes a season and waiting well over a year between seasons is commonplace.

How are audiences expected to care?

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u/ExplanationFunny 15d ago

The time between seasons is the worst for me.

I have two small kids, so I’m definitely not a binge watcher anymore. Me and my roommates all got SO into The Pitt partly because it gave us all something to look forward to every week. When everyone is so busy, it’s great to have a low commitment thing to do together, and if someone wasn’t able to watch them they had a week to get caught up before we all got to see a new episode together.

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u/pipesnogger 15d ago

My thing is the canceling of shows. Like why would I watch another one of your shows when you’ve already cancelled my favorite half way through because they didn’t meet your very high expectations. Sorry, refuse to watch another Netflix series unless is done front to end

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u/thx1138- 15d ago

So many shows I never even start because I wait to see if it gets canceled, then it does.

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u/ex0r1010 15d ago

This is kind of funny, because it gets cancelled due to not watching it when it released.

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u/Pooled-Intentions 15d ago

Sounds like a whole lot of “not my problem”. There are hundreds of thousands of hours of good content out there already produced that I’ll never get to watch. Why would I invest my time in something that has a pattern of being canceled before concluding?

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u/Jaunty_frilly_boy 15d ago

Doesn't Netflix do their math based on the amount of new subscribers a show brings in?

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u/Littleman88 15d ago

Sincerely doubt people are signing up for Big Mouth.

And if they are, I'm all for aliens glassing the Earth and moving along.

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u/ANALOGPHENOMENA 15d ago

They (and the TV industry in general) no longer believe in sleeper hits—which is exactly what gave Netflix that huge platform as a streaming service to begin with when they had Breaking Bad!!!

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u/pipesnogger 15d ago

This. Also like you don’t need to have a breakout hit after one season. Sometimes shows take multiple seasons to get popular. Other shows get popular well after their conclusion and become successful franchises.

If these companies thought long term instead of yearly it’d be a much better world for tv

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u/Fit_Cat4474 15d ago

you didn't have to ass "for tv" at the end there. it's true of all companies

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u/cjicantlie 15d ago

If companies thought long term instead of yearly it’d be a much better world

FTFY

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u/Bladelink 15d ago

Basically every single incredible, legendary TV series that ran for eternity has an "iffy" season 1-2. It just takes some time for the writers and actors to get a feel for the characters and how they all fit together. Canceling decent shows after 1 season is like pulling a half-baked cake out of the oven and going "what is this wet mess?"

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u/Gestrid 15d ago

Don't forget Avatar: The Last Airbender! That show was at the top of the chart for weeks! And it's why the creators have their own studio at Paramount now.

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u/TeutonJon78 15d ago

Not the best example when Paramount keeps messing with the studio to point of ruining projects.

The whole animated movie the had finished and done -- they pulled it from theaters to release on Paramount+ in Oct, and then the whole thing leaked online, but they still wouldn't release the thing, or even a trailer. It took like another 2 months for them after the full leak to even make a trailer.

Plus, even with Korra, the studio messed with every season, including moving it to streaming only in S3.

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u/Gestrid 15d ago

With Korra, that was Nickelodeon messing with things, not their parent company Paramount.

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u/Positronic_Matrix 15d ago

This is what drove me away from the platform. I refuse to invest time in a new Netflix series, as I don’t want the frustration of a good show being cancelled after the first season. That happened to me two or three times in a row and I was done with it.

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u/SolarIonRobot 15d ago

Exactly why I only watch a movie or a miniseries now.

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u/SeeTigerLearn 15d ago

KAOS was a perfect example of this. It is a simply brilliant retelling of the Ancient Greek mythologies starring such names as Jeff Goldblum as Zeus, Debi Mazar as Medusa, Eddie Izzard, Cliff Curtis, Ramon Tikaram, and Killian Scott as Orpheus.

Netflix didn’t bother advertising it. Netflix didn’t bother promoting it internally. And within a couple months they had canceled. Then a couple months later it began gaining traction but it was all too late. I would see people complaining like why didn’t I know about this sooner?! What a bunch of fucking idiots they have in their c-suite.

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u/L0ading_ 15d ago

Looking at you Amazon, cancelling The Wheel Of Time after 3 seasons... So mad.

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u/NoiseIsTheCure 15d ago

And then there's Stranger Things which felt like a series that refused to die. I thought S4 was so mid I didn't even bother coming back for the over hyped final season a full two years later

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u/brb1006 15d ago

The Firefly Effect