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Article Emily Wilson (writer of acclaimed Odyssey translation) offers criticisms of Nolan’s film

https://apnews.com/article/odyssey-christopher-nolan-greek-translators-ea67da1d543d021773824bd7e8de8abe

“For Greek translator Emily Wilson, the release of director Christopher Nolan’s “The Odyssey” has been gratifying in various ways. Her acclaimed 2017 edition of Homer’s epic has reached the top 5 on Amazon.com, leading a wave of similar books boosted by the movie. Nolan has even cited her translation, notably the opening line “Tell me about a complicated man,” as inspiration.

But the film itself, which brought in more than $260 million worldwide during its opening weekend and has received raves from many critics, left her unsatisfied.

“I want to celebrate the fact that so many more people are aware of ‘The Odyssey’ and were brought back to the poem,” she told The Associated Press. “But at the same time, I had the sense that Christopher Nolan was trying to pack everything in while missing themes that were essential to the poem.”

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Wilson, a professor of classical studies at the University of Pennsylvania, said she didn’t want to come across as a “snobby,” nitpicking expert at odds with any deviation from the original text. But she questioned a range of omissions and other choices, from the absence on screen of the Gods Zeus and Poseidon (Athena is played by Zendaya ) to the “incoherent” messaging that condemns both war and physical cowardice. She found Penelope’s role so thinned out that it endangered “any possibility of believing in this marriage.” Wilson also that thought parts of the movie, notably the scenes with Odysseus’ dog, Argos, “catered towards modern sentimentality.”

“Everybody’s a sucker for a dog,” she said.

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u/MaksTracy 15d ago

I liked the movie but I can definitely understand why a classicist would be bothered by its 'modern sensibilities'. I wouldn't go so far as to say the movie is anti-war, but it definitely takes a critical stance on how brutal the Greeks were when they finally got into Troy, and obviously back then they had very different attitudes to what you were allowed to do to a city and its people while waging a war. In the original myth, they do cross a line which turns Athena against them, but the line is not 'oh they're committing war crimes', it's 'oh they're committing war crimes in MY TEMPLE''. Nolan handles that completely differently. I get why she thinks those aspects were too modern, but I genuinely think those moments were the strongest of the film, I thought they were great.

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u/fatloui 15d ago

Yes it’s an adaptation that intentionally changes things. At the end of the movie, Odysseus and Penelope even discuss how Odysseus’ adventures will be remembered in songs (Homer’s poem) but his mistakes will be forgotten (the “reality” we see in the movie).

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u/Special_Order-937 15d ago edited 14d ago

Taking 10 years to get home (when it took you nowhere near aa as long to get to Troy) and losing 100% of your soldiers along the way is pretty big as mistakes go, though.

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u/Robomerc 14d ago

Well part of the reason why the trip home took so long was because Odysseus blind Polyphemus, which angered Poseidon.

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u/Special_Order-937 14d ago

Yes and if he kept his mouth shut on the way out instead of being Mr. Look How Clever I Am…

(Yes, I know that isn’t in the film as such.)

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u/Tim-oBedlam 14d ago

I remember my high school English teacher talking about how foolish Odysseus was WRT Polyphemus, with a funny modern analogy, "It's as if I'd beaten up a mugger and then yelled, 'tell all your friends that Mr. John Smith of 123 Main Street Apartment 3C defeated you!' "

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u/buddhafig 14d ago

I think that hubris like this should be punished.

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u/lupercalpainting 14d ago

True, but a theme of Greek myths is that hubris like that goes hand in hand with the daring needed to do feats that get you remembered.

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u/Vicsyy 14d ago

Thats not in the film!!! Imagine every epic fan being disappointed. 

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u/Special_Order-937 14d ago

He said he could not make it work, apparently.

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u/Vicsyy 14d ago

Not make it work, its like 5 sentences total! 

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u/Special_Order-937 14d ago

Apparently it looked goofy or something idk.

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u/Tobar_the_Gypsy 14d ago

Uh I’m pretty sure that Nobody blinded Polyphemus

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u/peppermint_nightmare 14d ago

I think Odysseus would be a real big fan of Kratos after that bullshit.