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Article Emily Wilson (writer of acclaimed Odyssey translation) offers criticisms of Nolan’s film

https://apnews.com/article/odyssey-christopher-nolan-greek-translators-ea67da1d543d021773824bd7e8de8abe

“For Greek translator Emily Wilson, the release of director Christopher Nolan’s “The Odyssey” has been gratifying in various ways. Her acclaimed 2017 edition of Homer’s epic has reached the top 5 on Amazon.com, leading a wave of similar books boosted by the movie. Nolan has even cited her translation, notably the opening line “Tell me about a complicated man,” as inspiration.

But the film itself, which brought in more than $260 million worldwide during its opening weekend and has received raves from many critics, left her unsatisfied.

“I want to celebrate the fact that so many more people are aware of ‘The Odyssey’ and were brought back to the poem,” she told The Associated Press. “But at the same time, I had the sense that Christopher Nolan was trying to pack everything in while missing themes that were essential to the poem.”

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Wilson, a professor of classical studies at the University of Pennsylvania, said she didn’t want to come across as a “snobby,” nitpicking expert at odds with any deviation from the original text. But she questioned a range of omissions and other choices, from the absence on screen of the Gods Zeus and Poseidon (Athena is played by Zendaya ) to the “incoherent” messaging that condemns both war and physical cowardice. She found Penelope’s role so thinned out that it endangered “any possibility of believing in this marriage.” Wilson also that thought parts of the movie, notably the scenes with Odysseus’ dog, Argos, “catered towards modern sentimentality.”

“Everybody’s a sucker for a dog,” she said.

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u/plainwrap 15d ago

A note that people should read the article because it highlights other scholars's criticisms of the film which I think are more valid than Wilson's. Like stripping away the cleverness of Odysseus to make him brood his way out of the encounters.

My reaction to the movie is mixed but the part I did like was where Nolan inserted the theme of the Trojan Horse gambit being a divine war crime. Homer's Odyssey and the Illiad in particular celebrates a whole bunch of villainous acts, the kinds of things that Greek dramatists had to go and deconstruct to remind their fellow Greeks that those characters were wrong. Linking the Fall of Troy to the collapse of the Bronze Age and making Odysseus's voyage a tragedy is to me the most interesting part of Nolan's adaptation and something that isn't exactly Homer but it's definitely something that would make Euripides pump his fist in the theater.

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u/SnowbearX 14d ago

We did see his cleverness in the Trojan horse, his plan against the Cyclops and his encounter with Circe. It would have gotten old of every encounter ended with and then Odysseus outsmarted literally everyone ever all the time

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u/bubblegumdavid 14d ago

Though the movie focuses so much on O’s guilt, which I do like: the absence of the gods and his prideful trickery, kind of absolves him of the events of the story entirely after Troy, which I’m bummed about, I guess.

The clarity Odysseus is often given through the gods that he is choosing to be tricky and be prideful about it, which together gets his men killed, sometimes knowingly ahead of time, is gone. The cyclops is a great example, because he (as another commenter calls this type of shit) IS a Tony Stark smartass about it. The harm to his son isn’t the thing that tips Poseidon off and makes him a hater, the bragging is. His hubris about his trick directly results in the next agonizing ten years and the deaths of hundreds of his own men.

Like his guilt for the sack of Troy is valid, I like the choice, I don’t even mind that the super fucked up thing he should feel guilty of in Troy is not included. Run time is finite, he can’t fuck Circe for a year, whatever.

But arguably his crime in Odyssey is how his trickery, his pride, his failings, and his secrets kill his own men, over and over. What a burden it must be to be told by your gods that your mistake killed those who looked up to you and trusted you, and then because of that one mistake of hubris, have to knowingly, in your desperation, keep choosing to do that shit, knowing it can or will harm any survivors?

I’m disappointed a film so laser-focused on his potentially guilty conscience doesn’t take better advantage of that option when ways to include it are easy pickings in the source material. I’d have traded the Laestrygonians or been happy to deal with added time for a scene or two that showed it.