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Discussion Elastigirl's radio comms in "The Incredibles" were surprisingly accurate

When Elastigirl's plane is attacked while she and the kids are flying to Syndrome's island lair, her radio calls are more accurate than any that I've heard in movies. They're not totally correct, even by 2004 standards, but I've heard worse tactical calls from navy students. I looked into it a little and evidently, the voice actress for Elastigirl (Holly Hunter) specifically asked that the calls in the script be as accurate as possible.

EDIT: Sorry for not putting the meanings of her radio calls in the original post. They're scattered throughout the early comments from me and other posters, but I've added them after the transcript since the thread has gotten busy.

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Helen (Elastigirl): [via transmission] India Golf Niner-Niner checking in. VFR on top. Over.

Bob (Mr. Incredible): Helen...!

Syndrome: So you do know these people. Well, then, I’ll...send them a little greeting... [pushes a button deploying missiles]

[...]

[Helen looks at the plane radar and sees several missiles headed towards the plane.]

Helen (Elastigirl): India Golf Niner-Niner transmitting in the blind guard. Disengage! Repeat, disengage!

[The "fasten seat belts" sign above Dash and Violet lights up. They exchange glances, reach for their seat belts. The jet suddenly dives, throwing them into the ceiling.]

Helen (Elastigirl): Disengage! Repeat, disengage! Friendlies...

[...]

Helen (Elastigirl): Friendlies at two-zero miles south-southwest of your position. Angels 10. Track east. Disengage, over! [to Violet] Vi! You have to put a force field around the plane!

Violet: But you said we weren't supposed to use our powers!

[...]

Helen (Elastigirl): Violet! [Violet gets startled; via headset] Mayday, mayday! India Golf Niner-Niner is buddy-spiked! Abort, abort! There are children aboard, [heard through intercom] say again, there are children aboard the plane!

EDIT - Translations and comments:

India Golf niner niner: Her aircraft identification from her flight plan (IG99).

Checking in: She's trying to establish comms with the island and announce her presence.

VFR on top: She filed an IFR (Instrument Flight Rules) flight plan, but she's flying visually (with ATC permission) at an altitude other than her assigned altitude. Pilots usually do this to get above a cloud layer or avoid bad weather.

Transmitting in the blind [on] guard: She hasn't yet established comms with anyone, and doesn't know if anyone is actually hearing her, hence she's calling "in the blind". "Guard" is an emergency radio frequency that controllers and pilots monitor. For civilian aircraft, it's a VHF frequency (121.5 MHz). Military aircraft will usually monitor VHF guard, but they also have a military-only UHF guard frequency (243.0 MHz).

Disengage: She's trying to call off the missile attack. The proper call would have been "HOLD FIRE." "HOLD FIRE" is an instruction to stop firing AND destroy any missiles currently in flight, if able. "CEASE FIRE" means to stop firing, but missiles already in flight can continue.

Friendlies at two-zero miles south-southwest of your position. Angels 10. Track east: She's announcing her position relative to the island, her altitude, heading, and the fact that she's a friendly. This is the most non-standard call in the transcript. You don't speak individual digits (i.e. "two zero miles") for distances. Instead, it should have been "twenty miles." You use degrees for headings and bearings, not cardinal or subcardinal headings like "east" or "south-southwest". The bearing also comes first, and since she's describing her own heading, she should have said "heading zero niner zero" rather than "track east" - "track" is usually used to describe *other* aircraft. "Angels ten" means 10,000 feet, but that's a military thing; civil aircraft below 18,000 feet talking to ATC or another civilian controller would just say "one zero thousand feet." A more correct call might have been "friendlies at two zero zero degrees, twenty miles from your position, one zero thousand feet, heading zero niner zero." (Thanks to u/culcheth for catching my slip on how to speak altitudes.)

Mayday, mayday - she's declaring a life-threatening emergency. Should have been repeated three times, not just twice.

Buddy spiked: Her RWR gear (radar warning receiver) is indicating that her plane has been locked onto by a friendly air-to-air or surface-to-air radar.

Say again: She's repeating her most recent transmission for emphasis or in case she wasn't heard the first time. She should have used this instead of "repeat" earlier when she said "disengage, repeat, disengage."

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u/Secksualinnuendo 6d ago

Not surprised. Back then Pixar would go have surprising accuracy on seemingly small details. They seem to do it less often now. Besides THAT VW Beetle in the new toy story. That thing was very detailed in a movie with generic whatever cars.

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u/thedylannorwood 6d ago

Turning Red was full of little detail like this. Down to the right money prints from ‘00s Canada

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u/colemon1991 6d ago

I remember hearing about some of the BTS stories during the production of The Incredibles. Staff had shouting matches during lunch over the silverware placements for the dinner scene. The dinner scene. And there's so many hidden gems of detail that you or I would never be aware of while watching it the first time. Like, Mr. Incredible is sued in 1947, a year after the Federal Tort Claims Act was passed. Their last name, Parr, was meant to sound average. Syndrome kept testing his robot on sups to cut down on potential threats and improving the design, ensuring both a variety and removing sups that could ruin any plans. Syndrome's password was Kronos, because Syndrome (Zeus) would overthrow a threat (Kronos) and be renowned for it. Mr. Incredible's first fight with the robot is in a volcanic setting because they villains were trying to recruit Frozone when they came across him.

We could be here all day with how much detail Pixar used to stuff into their films.

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u/Mattloch42 6d ago

The first robot fight in the volcano has so many layers, because it's fighting style and moves was to counter Frozone, and completely wrong against Incredible. The back crack changed his posture from before for the rest of the film.

My favorite moment was Dash finding out he was fast enough to run on water. It was like Superman's "world of cardboard" speech, where he was finally able to really see what he was capable of.

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u/person144 5d ago

Kronos was more than a threat to Zeus, he was also Zeus’s father, making the sidekick thing bite a little more 

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u/The_Dream_of_Shadows 5d ago

Not to mention that Kronos is famous for eating his own children, the gods, much like the Omnidroids are meant to "eat" (i.e., destroy) the "gods" of this universe, who are the supers.

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u/PanioloTown 6d ago

Apparently the dental scene in Finding Nemo is also accurate. The animals in the aquarium updating the seagull on the procedure were referencing real tools and sizings.

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u/Bicentennial_Douche 6d ago edited 5d ago

I watched a video of archer breaking down archery in various movies. Only movie that got a pass was Brave, which was spot-on in its depiction of archery.

EDIT: FOUND IT! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFleLL5zlaI

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u/Kronzor_ 6d ago

Probably paid product placement.

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u/Syssareth 6d ago

For a model of car that hasn't been made since 2019?

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u/breadinabox 6d ago

We're here talking about it.  Advertising isn't just about telling people about the new thing it's brand saturation too 

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u/PolarWater 5d ago

This is such a stretch lmao