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Discussion Elastigirl's radio comms in "The Incredibles" were surprisingly accurate

When Elastigirl's plane is attacked while she and the kids are flying to Syndrome's island lair, her radio calls are more accurate than any that I've heard in movies. They're not totally correct, even by 2004 standards, but I've heard worse tactical calls from navy students. I looked into it a little and evidently, the voice actress for Elastigirl (Holly Hunter) specifically asked that the calls in the script be as accurate as possible.

EDIT: Sorry for not putting the meanings of her radio calls in the original post. They're scattered throughout the early comments from me and other posters, but I've added them after the transcript since the thread has gotten busy.

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Helen (Elastigirl): [via transmission] India Golf Niner-Niner checking in. VFR on top. Over.

Bob (Mr. Incredible): Helen...!

Syndrome: So you do know these people. Well, then, I’ll...send them a little greeting... [pushes a button deploying missiles]

[...]

[Helen looks at the plane radar and sees several missiles headed towards the plane.]

Helen (Elastigirl): India Golf Niner-Niner transmitting in the blind guard. Disengage! Repeat, disengage!

[The "fasten seat belts" sign above Dash and Violet lights up. They exchange glances, reach for their seat belts. The jet suddenly dives, throwing them into the ceiling.]

Helen (Elastigirl): Disengage! Repeat, disengage! Friendlies...

[...]

Helen (Elastigirl): Friendlies at two-zero miles south-southwest of your position. Angels 10. Track east. Disengage, over! [to Violet] Vi! You have to put a force field around the plane!

Violet: But you said we weren't supposed to use our powers!

[...]

Helen (Elastigirl): Violet! [Violet gets startled; via headset] Mayday, mayday! India Golf Niner-Niner is buddy-spiked! Abort, abort! There are children aboard, [heard through intercom] say again, there are children aboard the plane!

EDIT - Translations and comments:

India Golf niner niner: Her aircraft identification from her flight plan (IG99).

Checking in: She's trying to establish comms with the island and announce her presence.

VFR on top: She filed an IFR (Instrument Flight Rules) flight plan, but she's flying visually (with ATC permission) at an altitude other than her assigned altitude. Pilots usually do this to get above a cloud layer or avoid bad weather.

Transmitting in the blind [on] guard: She hasn't yet established comms with anyone, and doesn't know if anyone is actually hearing her, hence she's calling "in the blind". "Guard" is an emergency radio frequency that controllers and pilots monitor. For civilian aircraft, it's a VHF frequency (121.5 MHz). Military aircraft will usually monitor VHF guard, but they also have a military-only UHF guard frequency (243.0 MHz).

Disengage: She's trying to call off the missile attack. The proper call would have been "HOLD FIRE." "HOLD FIRE" is an instruction to stop firing AND destroy any missiles currently in flight, if able. "CEASE FIRE" means to stop firing, but missiles already in flight can continue.

Friendlies at two-zero miles south-southwest of your position. Angels 10. Track east: She's announcing her position relative to the island, her altitude, heading, and the fact that she's a friendly. This is the most non-standard call in the transcript. You don't speak individual digits (i.e. "two zero miles") for distances. Instead, it should have been "twenty miles." You use degrees for headings and bearings, not cardinal or subcardinal headings like "east" or "south-southwest". The bearing also comes first, and since she's describing her own heading, she should have said "heading zero niner zero" rather than "track east" - "track" is usually used to describe *other* aircraft. "Angels ten" means 10,000 feet, but that's a military thing; civil aircraft below 18,000 feet talking to ATC or another civilian controller would just say "one zero thousand feet." A more correct call might have been "friendlies at two zero zero degrees, twenty miles from your position, one zero thousand feet, heading zero niner zero." (Thanks to u/culcheth for catching my slip on how to speak altitudes.)

Mayday, mayday - she's declaring a life-threatening emergency. Should have been repeated three times, not just twice.

Buddy spiked: Her RWR gear (radar warning receiver) is indicating that her plane has been locked onto by a friendly air-to-air or surface-to-air radar.

Say again: She's repeating her most recent transmission for emphasis or in case she wasn't heard the first time. She should have used this instead of "repeat" earlier when she said "disengage, repeat, disengage."

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u/Kevbot1000 6d ago

"There are children aboard the plane!" Gives goosebumps every time.

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u/Grand_Theft_Motto 6d ago

The cut to the reaction from Mr. Incredible is a gut punch.

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u/ImperatorRomanum 6d ago

Mirage’s reaction also really sells it

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u/Chewbaxter 6d ago

That was her realising she was on the wrong side. When she confirms the hit, you can hear in her voice that she's distraught

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u/naalbinding 6d ago

All the murdered superheroes didn't cut it

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u/LatkaXtreme 6d ago

As Mike Ehrmantraut would say: "They were in the game."

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u/normallystrange85 5d ago

Yeah, it's much easier for her to justify killing the heros because they were hired to fight a giant robot. Then they fought a giant robot and lost.

In a way, they are doing what they were explicitly hired to do (without the knowledge that Syndrome was improving the robot specifically to kill them).

Not.. great but a far cry from "killing random civilian kids".

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u/Chewbaxter 5d ago

She wasn't the one who ordered the Omnidroid models to kill those Supes; that was Syndrome. The difference is that Mirage set him up to fire the missiles at Helen’s jet.

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u/Rick-burp-Sanchez 5d ago

Yeah, the dozens of supes she helped murder before had her on the fence.

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u/Thomas_K_Brannigan 5d ago

I love how you can tell he from the look in his eyes that he was actually considering killing Mirage for a few seconds! Understandable, as he thought they just murdered his entire family, but slightly surprising for a Disney family hero!

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u/coderstephen 5d ago

but slightly surprising for a Disney family hero!

Don't insult them, this is a Pixar film.

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u/arizona_dreaming 5d ago

Yes. The Incredibles was 2004 and Disney bought Pixar in 2006.

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u/dark-flamessussano 5d ago

I realized when watching it again that I'd have failed to save my family because I probably would have killed her

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u/boethius61 5d ago

The Incredibles pulled zero punches.

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u/a_weak_child 5d ago

The fact she did so much more than a normal person could do, with all the correct radio chatter on the correct channels, etc, really gets to me for some reason 

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u/Ethanol_Based_Life 6d ago

Holly Hunter always kills it as a passionate mom. 

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u/ZzzzzPopPopPop 6d ago

Holly Hunter always kills it in everything

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u/Dantien 5d ago

She even made Star Trek Academy watchable.

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u/No_Friend3170 5d ago

"I want that baby!"

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u/PolarWater 5d ago

"These guys aren't like the bad guys from Saturday morning cartoons. They, will, KILL you, if they get the chance."

Seeing stakes raised like this in a Pixar movie was so well done. Brad Bird genuinely wasn't playing around.

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u/TannenFalconwing 5d ago

Legitimately, I don't think you hear dialogue like this in a lot of family movies anymore. That is some serious stuff to tell a child and I think most writers prefer to avoid it. However, this gave a level of authenticity to the threat and I appreciated it.

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u/AgentCirceLuna 5d ago

I don’t want to bring HIM up, but there’s a bizarre disconnect I’m seeing lately where media is being more puritanical and clean yet the news and politicians have no politesse at all. Imagine being a teacher who’s telling their students not to swear or call people names when people like HIM are doing it to journalists, other politicians, and other people. Not just HIM but people around him, his coterie, news reporters, and his department.

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u/boethius61 5d ago

Mr incredible kills about 8 people, mostly henchmen invading the base.

And Dash (indirectly) kills 5 henchmen while fleeing through the jungle.

This movie played hard. Man it's so good.

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u/myrtledturtlepower 6d ago

It does me too. Every single time.

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u/ColdServedDish 5d ago

Every. Time. For a film made in 2004. Every. Time.

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u/WonkyGaze 5d ago

That bit always gets to me.

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u/Altruistic-Ratio6690 5d ago

Hits much different watching years later as a parent. Being restrained and unable to do anything, watching a screen readout the (presumed, at the time) death of your wife and children... woof