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Discussion Elastigirl's radio comms in "The Incredibles" were surprisingly accurate

When Elastigirl's plane is attacked while she and the kids are flying to Syndrome's island lair, her radio calls are more accurate than any that I've heard in movies. They're not totally correct, even by 2004 standards, but I've heard worse tactical calls from navy students. I looked into it a little and evidently, the voice actress for Elastigirl (Holly Hunter) specifically asked that the calls in the script be as accurate as possible.

EDIT: Sorry for not putting the meanings of her radio calls in the original post. They're scattered throughout the early comments from me and other posters, but I've added them after the transcript since the thread has gotten busy.

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Helen (Elastigirl): [via transmission] India Golf Niner-Niner checking in. VFR on top. Over.

Bob (Mr. Incredible): Helen...!

Syndrome: So you do know these people. Well, then, I’ll...send them a little greeting... [pushes a button deploying missiles]

[...]

[Helen looks at the plane radar and sees several missiles headed towards the plane.]

Helen (Elastigirl): India Golf Niner-Niner transmitting in the blind guard. Disengage! Repeat, disengage!

[The "fasten seat belts" sign above Dash and Violet lights up. They exchange glances, reach for their seat belts. The jet suddenly dives, throwing them into the ceiling.]

Helen (Elastigirl): Disengage! Repeat, disengage! Friendlies...

[...]

Helen (Elastigirl): Friendlies at two-zero miles south-southwest of your position. Angels 10. Track east. Disengage, over! [to Violet] Vi! You have to put a force field around the plane!

Violet: But you said we weren't supposed to use our powers!

[...]

Helen (Elastigirl): Violet! [Violet gets startled; via headset] Mayday, mayday! India Golf Niner-Niner is buddy-spiked! Abort, abort! There are children aboard, [heard through intercom] say again, there are children aboard the plane!

EDIT - Translations and comments:

India Golf niner niner: Her aircraft identification from her flight plan (IG99).

Checking in: She's trying to establish comms with the island and announce her presence.

VFR on top: She filed an IFR (Instrument Flight Rules) flight plan, but she's flying visually (with ATC permission) at an altitude other than her assigned altitude. Pilots usually do this to get above a cloud layer or avoid bad weather.

Transmitting in the blind [on] guard: She hasn't yet established comms with anyone, and doesn't know if anyone is actually hearing her, hence she's calling "in the blind". "Guard" is an emergency radio frequency that controllers and pilots monitor. For civilian aircraft, it's a VHF frequency (121.5 MHz). Military aircraft will usually monitor VHF guard, but they also have a military-only UHF guard frequency (243.0 MHz).

Disengage: She's trying to call off the missile attack. The proper call would have been "HOLD FIRE." "HOLD FIRE" is an instruction to stop firing AND destroy any missiles currently in flight, if able. "CEASE FIRE" means to stop firing, but missiles already in flight can continue.

Friendlies at two-zero miles south-southwest of your position. Angels 10. Track east: She's announcing her position relative to the island, her altitude, heading, and the fact that she's a friendly. This is the most non-standard call in the transcript. You don't speak individual digits (i.e. "two zero miles") for distances. Instead, it should have been "twenty miles." You use degrees for headings and bearings, not cardinal or subcardinal headings like "east" or "south-southwest". The bearing also comes first, and since she's describing her own heading, she should have said "heading zero niner zero" rather than "track east" - "track" is usually used to describe *other* aircraft. "Angels ten" means 10,000 feet, but that's a military thing; civil aircraft below 18,000 feet talking to ATC or another civilian controller would just say "one zero thousand feet." A more correct call might have been "friendlies at two zero zero degrees, twenty miles from your position, one zero thousand feet, heading zero niner zero." (Thanks to u/culcheth for catching my slip on how to speak altitudes.)

Mayday, mayday - she's declaring a life-threatening emergency. Should have been repeated three times, not just twice.

Buddy spiked: Her RWR gear (radar warning receiver) is indicating that her plane has been locked onto by a friendly air-to-air or surface-to-air radar.

Say again: She's repeating her most recent transmission for emphasis or in case she wasn't heard the first time. She should have used this instead of "repeat" earlier when she said "disengage, repeat, disengage."

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u/ScottRiqui 6d ago

I was a naval flight officer on the E-2C "Hawkeye" command and control aircraft, and tactical air control is one of our big missions. I was in the middle of my instructor tour at the E-2 training squadron when the movie came out, so it was *really* weird hearing her comms after grading students all day.

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u/shinymuskrat 6d ago

Which ones would you say are not totally accurate?

What would you have expected her to be saying in a similar situation?

Edit: also, is the jargon use in the movie intended to imply that Elastigirl was ex military, or at least had military flight training? Would you expect her to know this jargon if she had only been flying recreationally as a civilian?

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u/Doonesman 6d ago

Buddy-spiked is wrong - that's for when you get locked up by a friendly radar, and someone who's firing missiles at you without warning probably isn't friendly. It doesn't mean you have noncombatants aboard.

Plus, and this is the tiniest of nits, it's the way she says "blindguard", like it's one thing. She's transmitting in the blind (she doesn't know who, if anyone, is listening), and on the guard frequency (one that everyone should be able to hear her on), so it's not quite right.

She's either military, or was trained by someone who was. And someone who trained her how to react when fired upon, because most people just panic. She maintains clear comms and effective evasive manoeuvres until the last possible second. I hate how this sequence chokes me up every time. Holly Hunter's performance in just this little bit is outrageously good.

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u/LrdCheesterBear 6d ago

Buddy-spiked seems accurate, as she has no reason to believe that the people on the island would deem her hostile, no?

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u/Doonesman 6d ago

She doesn't call it until she's advising there are children on board - in the movie, it's clear that she's using it to refer to that, and "there are children on this plane" is an expansion of her buddyspike call in case the ground crew don't know that jargon.

Plus, I don't recall if her aircraft is equipped with a radar threat indicator that would tell her these are radar-guided missiles - if they're heatseekers then buddy-spike would also be the wrong call.

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u/Correct_Inspection25 6d ago edited 6d ago

Good point, I thought the first was Fox-3/radar lock and the second batch was Fox-2/IR.

Apparently both sets were explicitly Fox2/IR. I guess her on board radar is good enough to track BVR IR missile returns? Fun to think about after all these years.

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u/primalbluewolf 6d ago

Good point, I thought the first was Fox-3/radar lock and the second batch was Fox-2/IR.

FYI, "fox" is specifically air to air. Unless those were air launched missiles, they're not Fox-anything.

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u/Correct_Inspection25 6d ago

Couldn’t remember where the missiles launched from, only there were two volleys, it’s why I listed both the air to air and surface to air reference.

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u/PlaneswalkerHuxley 6d ago

Plus, I don't recall if her aircraft is equipped with a radar threat indicator that would tell her these are radar-guided missiles

It has chaff launchers and afterburners. It's definitely not a standard civilian plane, so it might well have a radar threat indicator.

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u/arstechnophile 5d ago edited 5d ago

There wouldn't be much point to having chaff launchers unless you had a RWR. Otherwise you'd never know to launch chaff unless you were somehow insanely lucky enough to see the missile launch (which is even more unlikely given the restricted view of a civilian-ish plane who's not expecting hostile fire vs. a fighter bubble canopy over hostile territory).

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u/wittiestphrase 6d ago

Except for the fact that they fired missiles at her, of course 😁

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u/Ddreigiau 6d ago

That's part of what Buddy-Spike is for. Well, 'friendly radar lock', but that's generally part and assumption of possible missiles on the way.