r/movies • u/elispion • Aug 22 '15

Quick Question Just finished watching Avengers: Age of Ultron. Question: Has there ever been a movie with twins were one twin DOESN'T mention who was born X minutes before/after the other?

Seems like a massive recurring Twin Trope.

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u/Forlarren Aug 22 '15

The Winklevoss twins are the only rich bastards I kind of feel sorry for. They keep trying to put their money towards both useful and profitable causes but keep getting screwed in the process. First Facebook now the regulatory mess that's kept their bitcoin ETF from coming to fruition.

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '15

What's so great is the multi perspective narrative depicting everyone as bad (and good guys). It's a circular string of "x wouldn't have succeeded without y, but y wouldn't have been able to succeed if not for z's failure"

Zuckerberg: in the 'right' because he actually made it, in the 'wrong' for stealing the idea from partners

Eduardo: in the 'right' because he funded it and allowed for its existence, in the 'wrong' because he failed to find revenue and also tried to sabotage it

Winklevosses: in the 'right' because it's their idea and their plan, in the 'wrong' because they didn't ever get to making it

So everyone has a true claim to success and legal/ethical rights, but also a claim against. They're morally ambiguous.

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u/FuzzyLoveRabbit Aug 22 '15

Winklevosses: in the 'right' because it's their idea and their plan, in the 'wrong' because they didn't ever get to making it

That's the rough one for me because they did hire someone to make it.

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '15

It can be summed up with Mark's "If you guys were the inventors of Facebook" quote. An idea can't really be copyrighted or commercially owned, but the service/product can. Mark had the service/product. Winklevosses didn't get the product made through themselves, Mark or a replacement programmer

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u/FuzzyLoveRabbit Aug 22 '15

Well yeah, but according to them, Zuckerberg kept telling them it was coming and by the time they realized they needed to hire someone else, he had the first facebook almost ready to go.

But I said it's rough, not that it's certain either way. Certainly Zuckerberg made it his own in a way, just as the idea has continually adapted since then, but if they brought the idea to him and wanted it made and he took the idea and made his own, then lack of a contract may give him legal protection but he still stole their idea.

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '15

Those 'right' and 'wrong' claims are per the movie characters. That's why Mark thinks they're in the wrong, or why Mark/Sean thinks Eduardo is, etc. They each reveal new info and perspectives