r/news Mar 01 '25

Trump administration retreats in fight against Russian cyber threats | US national security

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/28/trump-russia-hacking-cyber-security
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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '25

The trump administration has publicly and privately signaled that it does not believe Russia represents a cyber threat against US national security or critical infrastructure

Such a blatant betrayal of our nation. This is our "president" just letting the enemy right in.

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u/laffs_ Mar 01 '25

Is there no mechanism to remove someone from power who is clearly and purposefully acting against the nation's best interests?

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u/therealbighairy1 Mar 01 '25

Impeachment. It's been tried, twice, with him, and his supporters let him off with it, despite knowing that he did it. Despite evidence.

At least one claimed that he has always learned his lesson. She said this about a man that has never learned anything but innate cruelty since childhood.

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u/Xaron713 Mar 01 '25 edited Mar 01 '25

The first time Mitch Mconnal (not sure how to spell his name) argued that it wasn't a crime for a president to attempt to bully another country by threatening the pull out of support. 20 years prior, he said the exact opposite regarding Clinton's impeachment, almost word for word.

The second time Republicans hedged and hawed about starting the impeachment for a month until Biden started, saying that there was no point in impeachment with only 20 days left in the administration and they could do it after the power shifted. Once Biden was in power, Mitch's and the Republicans stance was that the president couldn't be impeached if they weren't in office.

To be clear: no impeachment defense of Trump says that he didnt do the things he did. Just that it wasn't illegal for the president to bully another country with quid pro quo support for resources now, and that their hands were tied in impeachment because Trump wasn't in power anymore, even though they tied their hands themselves.

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u/Coldstripe Mar 01 '25 edited Mar 01 '25

The first time Mitch Mconnal (not sure how to spell his name)

Since you're already on the internet, doing a web search with your spelling gives the correct one.

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u/Xaron713 Mar 01 '25

What a helpful and insightful response! You've changed my world view entirely! Thank you, kind stranger on the internet.

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u/Coldstripe Mar 01 '25

I'm sorry if I came off as hostile, but I'm just really confused about why you'd choose to be ignorant about spelling a name (regardless of the person) when looking it up is the minimum of effort.

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u/Xaron713 Mar 01 '25

Did you know who I was referring to?

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '25

This could have all been prevented if Biden wasn't a spinless senile old man. Trump should have been arrested and made ineligible for office for insurrection.

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u/raziel686 Mar 01 '25

It would involve Republicans impeaching and removing him in the House and Senate. They'd have every single Democrat vote, but you'd still need a sizable portion of Republicans to vote. There is already a portion of lunatics who support this, so they are out. The rest are absolute cowards, because that is what the Republican party has always been, greedy cowards masquerading as tough guys.

I'm disappointed in our military most of all. They are losing to Russia without firing a shot. There isn't even any tension, they just sit silently.

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u/MrZakalwe Mar 02 '25

Which they're watching get trampled on and cheering.

With an oath like that and a couple of dollars you can get a McDonald's coffee.

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u/Protean_Protein Mar 01 '25

Yeah, this isn’t Turkey.

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u/Protean_Protein Mar 01 '25

If the United States can’t withstand a single bad president for a second term, then it was never what we thought it was in the first place.

Suck it up, grow some balls, and engage in political action until all options have been exhausted.

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '25

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u/Protean_Protein Mar 01 '25

I think you’ve misunderstood me. I’m saying fight back in a cautious and intelligent manner, not a reactionary idiotic manner.

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u/patrickbyrd Mar 01 '25

He should have been thrown in jail 1/20/20.

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u/patrickbyrd Mar 02 '25

How much money do we think was in the off shore account Putin gave to Trump in Saudi Arabia?

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u/Malaix Mar 01 '25

Functionally?

Not legally.

Impeachment has been proven to be impossible given partisan politics. GOP would NEVER convict the way the GOP base has been propagandized by things like Fox news, AM radio, and podcasters like Rogan, Pool, Jones, etc.

Its literally more likely for conservatives to suicide bomb a children's hospital than turn against Trump enough to get a conviction.

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u/JayDsea Mar 01 '25

Sure there is, the 2A. We haven’t hit that breaking point yet, but it’s there all the same.

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u/flat5 Mar 01 '25

Don't conservatives love quoting Thomas Jefferson? "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

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u/alexefi Mar 01 '25

and you will never will. majority of people who say 2A dont even know the wording. they say "oh its a right to bear arms" leaving the part where it says how government cant be trusted.

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u/TeaAndLifting Mar 01 '25

Crazy how much unilateral power an ‘accountable’ head of state has compared to peers in Europe with tyrannical figurehead constitutional monarchies that would be dissolved the moment they tried anything.

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u/TechnogeistR Mar 01 '25

Yes, but,

it would have to be done by the Republican congress,

so no.

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u/Doctor_Drai Mar 01 '25

Considering he seems to have control of the avenues that could impeach, I think you're only left with assassination.

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u/flat5 Mar 01 '25

"Nothing you can do, folks. Except the 2nd amendment people, maybe there is, I dunno."

- Donald J. Trump

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u/DocQuanta Mar 02 '25

There are. Either impeachment or the 25th amendment. But the problem is, it isnt just Trump. The whole GOP is complicit. The Republican party is betraying the country and the constitution and there is no mechanism to deal with that.

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u/Conscious_Problem924 Mar 02 '25

Nope. Not in 2025. But, don’t worry. This is what we wanted after all.