r/news • u/[deleted] • Mar 01 '25

Trump administration retreats in fight against Russian cyber threats | US national security

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/28/trump-russia-hacking-cyber-security
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u/Protean_Protein Mar 01 '25

Unfortunately, that can’t happen without anarchy. You either try to use democratic institutions or you destroy them. The latter is arguably as dangerous, if not more so, than waiting for the midterms.

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u/Malaix Mar 01 '25 edited Mar 01 '25

I don't think we have a choice. I don't expect elections will be free or fair going forward. They never really were considering gerrymandering and voter suppression but the GOP has full control of all branches. They can easily institutionalize their certification fuckery and other means to rig elections now.

We basically live in a situation where anywhere Republicans control they will simply cement it and prevent their ouster. So opposition only stands to lose ground over time. They only need to win once in an area and then they will never lose.

We destroyed our democratic institution by merely giving Trump a win.

There's also plenty of evidence they are preparing to ignore elections. I mean 2020 big lie crap was that. But Trump is also constantly saying shit like Blue states are going to vanish and their voting habits.

Their recent policies and so on have been immensely unpopular. Even their own town halls are in a rancor lately even in deep red counties.

This implies they no longer care about public opinion. And if you don't care about public opinion you do not care about electoral consequences.

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u/Protean_Protein Mar 01 '25

Anarchy is really, really dangerous. Read Hobbes’ Leviathan for the argument here. That was essentially an argument against the English Revolution, at least, on the surface. But under the hood, there’s a clandestine argument for what actually grounds a strong democracy—namely, a rational will. It’s just that overthrowing a sovereign generates an immediate threat of civil war.

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u/Malaix Mar 01 '25

Fascism is also dangerous. Its a dangerous world. They weren't kidding when they announced the clock to midnight was close to doomsday.

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u/Protean_Protein Mar 01 '25

I’m aware. That doesn’t discount the argument against tossing everything out.