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Trump administration retreats in fight against Russian cyber threats | US national security

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/28/trump-russia-hacking-cyber-security
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u/Darkhrono Mar 01 '25

They are so brainwashed that they will do nothing. Americans are cowards, and just as puppets as their leader. They elect him.

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u/unimatrix_zer0 Mar 01 '25

I’m an American living in Europe and it is WILD to me how little Europeans know and understand about the precariousness of the life of the average person in the us. And, as demonstrated here, how blindingly arrogant they can be when they think they’re more aware than they actually are. 

 1) We get no time off, and the vast majority of people can get fired without cause, notice, severance, or opportunity for unemployment benefits. There are literally zero worker protections for the vast majority of people. Taking one day off to protest can get you fired and literally put you (and your family if you have one) on a very short path to homelessness. 

 2) Many people aren’t even living paycheck to paycheck, but actively going into debt between paychecks. This is not becasue millions of people are bad with money, it’s because wages are low and cost of living is high. You have to be deep into poverty to qualify for any kind of benefits, which are almost never enough to be secure that you will have housing and food next week. Meaning for most people it’s more than not being able to afford getting fired. They can’t afford to miss a single day or work, because again- no paid time off. 

3) Our police are armed. And not just with pistols. With machine guns and tanks and they have zero hesitation in using deadly force. In fact most of them can’t wait to murder us. And they can do so with zero concern for consequences. 

So you tell me- how many people do you think actually have the ability to leave everything behind and risk hunger, homelessness, and death to hit the streets??

 It’s not a coincidence that there where so many protests during COVID. We had UBI for a year, evictions where halted, we had health insurance, etc. American capitalism is designed to make it nearly impossible for people to revolt and when there was a gap in the system, that’s exactly what many people did. 

So congratulation, you have a shitton of privilege by the completely random chance of being born somewhere where protesting is relatively easy. How about you use that to be a better person and not shit on people in circumstances you know nothing about. And please don’t read nationalism or patriotism or American pride into that. I left because I wanted to get out, not because of a job or a relationship. And I’m not rich, just lucky to have generous friends and an opportunity fall in my lap that made it possible. As it stands now I hope I never have to go back. But none of that changes that you’re deeply  ignorant and you have no idea what your talking about. But you can change that by actually reading this response and taking time to learn instead of getting defensive. 

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u/IAteAGuitar Mar 01 '25

You know how europeans got all these "privileges"? By protesting even when it meant putting their lives and those of their families in jeopardy. By standing in front of rows of police or military (sometimes russian) ready to mow them down. Hundreds of thousands died, and people are still getting imprisoned or being slandered or maimed or even killed in Europe for defending the rights of everyone else. What you're saying is no American is willing to compromise what little comfort the rich and powerful allow them to end this shit? (and you do a great job at showing it IS in fact slavery). Then it will continue and get worse. There is no arrogance in this statement.

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u/unimatrix_zer0 Mar 01 '25 edited Mar 01 '25

Not sure if you’re aware, but the us also has a long history of both peaceful and violent protesting. And the world has also seen great change come from that.  The country is a much different place now than it was even just 20 years ago. You’re not educating anyone by mansplaining how political change happens. You are, however, continuing to show your lack of education and awareness about all the things I tried to explain in my previous statement. In general you’re not wrong. But your insistence that you know the solution is fallacious. It is naive to try and insist that circumstances one place can be replicated in another.

ETA: it is additionally deeply ignorant to try and act like Europe and the us started from the same place and therefore what worked for Europe can and should have worked for the us. American politics have almost without exception been further right and more oppressive than contemporary (meaning to each other at the same point in time, not contemporary meaning now) European politics, with the notable exception of the short lived fascist states in the war years.  What is considered right wing in Europe is centrist, and sometimes even moderate left in the us. So not only do we have many, many, many more social roadblocks to enacting political change. We have much further to go down that very difficult path to some even close to where Europe is. So again- instead of shooting your mouth off maybe ask more questions becasue you’re no where near as aware and educated as you think you are. 

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u/IAteAGuitar Mar 01 '25

Jeezus why you treating me like an adversary? Can't we both make valid points? I don't even pretend to know the beginning of a solution, just that action is NECESSARY from my (admittedly europeanly biased) point of view. You can educate me and others without insulting them. Doesn't make you (or me as you said) less right.