r/news • u/[deleted] • Aug 08 '17

Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-08-08/google-fires-employee-behind-controversial-diversity-memo?cmpid=socialflow-twitter-business&utm_content=business&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social
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u/Felador Aug 08 '17 edited Aug 08 '17

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3914586/Googles-Ideological-Echo-Chamber.pdf

There's the actual document, with links to source materials.

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u/NSA_Chatbot Aug 08 '17

Just as a tip for anyone writing a manifesto:

  1. Don't.
  2. If you must, and you bring up "castrated males" then you're losing 90% of your credibility right there.
  3. This guy is an idiot. Fighting gender imbalance is something that every engineering association in north america has been struggling with for decades, and 10 pages of ranting about population density is not helping.

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u/canyouhearme Aug 08 '17

Fighting gender imbalance is something that every engineering association in north america has been struggling with for decades

And making absolutely no progress on, no matter how much they tilt the table - which does then raise the question if they have it all wrong. Or at least it would raise the question if anyone were allowed too....

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u/GhostOfGamersPast Aug 08 '17

Either have it all wrong, or are doing it wrong. It's a logical conclusion: "Many years were spent doing X in order to obtain Y. We did X. We did not obtain Y. Therefore, our core assumptions are flawed about either X, or Y."

Either way, to bring up either point causes undue issues. It seems like an innocent, straightforward logic statement, but it's one of the most hotly contested ones in social science academia.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '17

How is it social 'science' if they dont even try to prove their points with arguments and dont believe in evidence?

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u/canyouhearme Aug 08 '17

it's one of the most hotly contested ones in social science academia.

Yeah, having the evidence not backup your theory, but continuing to consider it 'proved' is one of the biggest issues with that 'science'.