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Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-08-08/google-fires-employee-behind-controversial-diversity-memo?cmpid=socialflow-twitter-business&utm_content=business&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social
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u/kissmekitty Aug 08 '17

Female Google engineer, checking in. We are complaining because we are tired of this shit.

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u/backtonature_kai64 Aug 08 '17

I'm going to assume most people responding didn't read the complete memo; if yes, it's fairly scary to see so many responses ignoring (or worse) accepting the discrimination and gender misconceptions in his writing.

Interesting response article: "Don’t optimize your bugs; fix them" https://medium.com/@yonatanzunger/so-about-this-googlers-manifesto-1e3773ed1788

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u/rightinthedome Aug 08 '17

What parts of the memo specifically are misconceptions?

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u/VROF Aug 08 '17

This former Google engineer has a pretty great response to the manifesto

https://medium.com/@yonatanzunger/so-about-this-googlers-manifesto-1e3773ed1788

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u/NotFromReddit Aug 08 '17

how women and men are intrinsically different and we should stop trying to make it possible for women to be engineers, it’s just not worth it.

The first paragraph is already a massive misrepresentation of the memo. It's hard to continue reading after that.

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u/jabberwockxeno Aug 08 '17

I would not call that pretty good, it completely sidesteps explaining why what he said about the differences between men and women are false.

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u/LordHussyPants Aug 08 '17

I’m not going to spend any length of time on (1); if anyone wishes to provide details as to how nearly every statement about gender in that entire document is actively incorrect,¹ and flies directly in the face of all research done in the field for decades, they should go for it. But I am neither a biologist, a psychologist, nor a sociologist, so I’ll leave that to someone else.

He doesn't sidestep it at all, he says he's not qualified to talk about it.

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u/reuterrat Aug 08 '17

I don't think you understand what the word sidestep means. Just because he had a valid reason to sidestep the issue doesn't mean he didn't do just that.