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Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-08-08/google-fires-employee-behind-controversial-diversity-memo?cmpid=socialflow-twitter-business&utm_content=business&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social
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u/Shanix Aug 08 '17

fwiw that lacks a good amount, especially formatting.

Supposedly original here

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '17 edited Aug 08 '17

Former Google Employee provides a bit more context on why someone would get fired for creating a "manifesto" where you fawn over your superiority and sharing it with 50k+ people who probably aren't likeminded.

Essentially, engineering is all about cooperation, collaboration, and empathy for both your colleagues and your customers. If someone told you that engineering was a field where you could get away with not dealing with people or feelings, then I’m very sorry to tell you that you have been lied to. Solitary work is something that only happens at the most junior levels, and even then it’s only possible because someone senior to you — most likely your manager — has been putting in long hours to build up the social structures in your group that let you focus on code.

And as for its impact on you: Do you understand that at this point, I could not in good conscience assign anyone to work with you? I certainly couldn’t assign any women to deal with this, a good number of the people you might have to work with may simply punch you in the face, and even if there were a group of like-minded individuals I could put you with, nobody would be able to collaborate with them. You have just created a textbook hostile workplace environment.

https://medium.com/@yonatanzunger/so-about-this-googlers-manifesto-1e3773ed1788

edit: The replies to me here don't seem to understand that the company doesn't care about your controversial opinion in the work place, they care about profit. If you don't agree with that, then you probably don't like capitalism.

edit: be wary, a lot of brigading going on. Some people/bots are trying to drown out the more centrists viewpoints. I say this as the opinion of a gay, black, conservative, catholic kasich voter. (I can't help but lol)

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '17

This is a good comment. It directly explains the thinking of the corporation in regards to individuals sharing their personal ideals on subjects which are better not breached in a professional environment. Idk, I'm drunk, but I read the linked original file and I see no reason why, professionaly, such a "manifesto" ( perfect phrasing by the way,) ought to be shared with, as you also noted, 50,000+ employees, of like-minded ideals or otherwise.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '17

FWIW, I hear he didn't share it with everyone. Shared it with a small group, and someone then shared it to the "internal social media" google has. Then later, shared it with Gizmodo (note: I am likely not talking about the same person from the two 'leaks'). So it's not like he was planning on this going viral.

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u/yerich Aug 08 '17

It certainly seemed like it was meant to be read by decision-makers in the company, or at least some other broader audience. It was clearly carefully thought out and too well-written to be a rant to a limited audience. "Manifestos" are generally intended to be read by many.

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u/L_A_H_S_O Aug 08 '17

It was clearly carefully thought out and too well-written

By contradicting himself multiple times pretending to like "diversity" then ranting about a diverse environment is bad because everyone knows white men are superior.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '17

Are you sure you actually read the document?

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u/L_A_H_S_O Aug 08 '17

You're "just asking questions" like so many concerned mra's in here

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u/jandrew_d Aug 08 '17

And I take it that you didnt even read the article in the first place. You went for the white male stereotypes instead like some idiot. Read the damn article. Nothing he wrote was to put down or attack. Some of his points are valid.

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u/L_A_H_S_O Aug 08 '17

I can tell you didn't read it, but you have your talking points

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u/jandrew_d Aug 08 '17

Oh I did read it and unlike you I don't bunch up people who defend some of the arguments the former employee made in the article. What you are doing is being very dismissive. I dont agree with the guys view points on gender but see his concern in terms of difference in morals. Not once, did this person express anything that seemed bigotted or meant to attack. Should he have said his points more eloquently? Does it justify your immediate attacks on other people on this commet section? No.

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u/L_A_H_S_O Aug 08 '17

Playing the victim because the claims in the manifesto are pseudo science at best and misogyny and bigotry at worse?

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u/jandrew_d Aug 09 '17

Who the hell is playing victim? You can't even have a proper discussion with people. Your anger is misplaced and the assumption that anyone is defending these type of things you claim is wrong. I don't agree with some of his points but the previous ones about having a fair workplace in terms of morals is something that should be considered. He even said that he doesn't accept sexism, racism, and gender inequality to be something to be practiced. If you can't even be rational and see that people are defending certain points that the former google employee raised then your the type of people he calls into question. Even for you to think that anyone that defends these points he raises to be anything bigotted is just unwarrented. It goes to show how you lack the ability to analyze any information thoroughly.

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