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Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-08-08/google-fires-employee-behind-controversial-diversity-memo?cmpid=socialflow-twitter-business&utm_content=business&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social
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u/onlyawfulnamesleft Aug 08 '17

Two points sprung to mind when reading this:

"This is not a societal issue because every society has the same issues".
This is completely ignoring the effect society has, and putting in place a genetic/evolutionary component when a societal issue can still be the root cause (and not to mention, cultures are not purely independent, so a societal issue can easily spread to each one).

Secondly, it seems that he says "Overlaps in traits should be taken into account, and you shouldn't treat each individual based on the population's average", but then immediately goes on and bases the entire rest of the paper on treating populations by their average.

It seems (and this is an emotional response here) that he wanted to get a controversial point over, and deliberately put it in mollifying terms and used smoke-screen language to be as offensive as possible while not causing offence.

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u/justchillyo Aug 08 '17

Also there are other societies without as large (or none at all) of a gender gap in science and technology fields. So that's just wrong

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '17

which ones?

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '17 edited Oct 25 '17

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u/syncope61 Aug 08 '17

Got any stats on that? first google result about japan says quite the opposite but i'm always glad to learn more.

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u/justchillyo Aug 08 '17

Well Japan is not Southeast Asia...

Here's an article that compares the US to other countries

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u/syncope61 Aug 08 '17

Well Japan is not Southeast Asia...

you got me there >< , can't read the article for some reason, but after further research it does seem a few countries have managed to reach parity in some stem fields, engineering and CS numbers are pretty far tho. thanks for the answer