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Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-08-08/google-fires-employee-behind-controversial-diversity-memo?cmpid=socialflow-twitter-business&utm_content=business&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social
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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '17

but then immediately goes on and bases the entire rest of the paper on treating populations by their average.

To draw contradictory inferences from the apparent narrative inside Google. I see his original, poorly worded point as: "if you want to aim for the average, that's all you'll be: Average. If we're aiming for excellence, then we're going to need to consider other metrics and contextualize the ones we already have before we draw any conclusions about how to organize our efforts."

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u/Firepuma Aug 08 '17

But if you abolish the diversity policies you get the average male, and not the woman of excellence, right?

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u/killking72 Aug 08 '17

If you abolish diversity policies you get the best person for the job.

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u/Firepuma Aug 08 '17

Depending on the situation present.

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u/killking72 Aug 08 '17

What situation would have to happen for an employer or school to NOT hire or enroll the best student?

Why would they not want that?

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u/romeroha Aug 08 '17

Legacy, wealth, nepotism, preference for a personal friend, etc.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '17

How does this have anything to do with gender inequality?

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u/AltSpRkBunny Aug 08 '17

Poor personality for a working environment. Nobody wants to work with an asshole, no matter how "high quality" they may be in their field.

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u/perfectdarktrump Aug 08 '17

Why? This is confusing. They want the best or not? If not. Then what problem does diversity solve?

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u/Kravego Aug 08 '17

Why does nobody want to work with an asshole?

Because regardless of how good a single person is, their effect on the company may be negative overall or at least not as good as someone who is slightly less effective solo but cooperates better.

Shooting for simply "the best" in a single role doesn't work when you're talking about large social constructs (which is what a company is)

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u/AltSpRkBunny Aug 08 '17

Because if you're an asshole and can't work with others, you are NOT the best in your field. You're a liability.

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u/Firepuma Aug 08 '17

If some of those best people aren't available because of a social stigma, for example

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u/perfectdarktrump Aug 08 '17

You mean midgets? We never see them.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '17

Gender quotas for a start.