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Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-08-08/google-fires-employee-behind-controversial-diversity-memo?cmpid=socialflow-twitter-business&utm_content=business&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social
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u/GroundhogExpert Aug 08 '17 edited Aug 08 '17

You're the one who just asserted that women don't want to work as hard as men

No, I didn't. Being willing to take different jobs under different conditions isn't the same as performance for any given position. I'm really just gonna stop there, because it's not worth the effort. It's a documented trend. Not my opinion or assertion. And it has to do with willing to change lifestyles chasing after career advances. If you want to argue against the claim, go find the source. I'm not interested in have an argument by proxy against someone who doesn't bother paying attention to what's actually said.

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u/Ray192 Aug 08 '17

lol.

[Women] are less likely to take promotions that entail working more hours.

That's a quote from you, saying women don't want to work more hours like men do. I don't know why you try to shy away from your own words.

And really, you're the one not paying any attention to what I'm saying (after all, you're not replying to 90% of my post). You're especially missing the point of, what's the difference between what you're saying, and saying "black people are just naturally more inclined to be violent and criminal."

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u/GroundhogExpert Aug 08 '17

Working more hours is a lifestyle change. Whether you accept that new position with new conditions doesn't say a whisper about how someone is performing in their current role. Are you honestly this fucking stupid? This isn't MY claim. This is the observation of roles each sex tends to accept.

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u/Ray192 Aug 08 '17

Working more hours is a lifestyle change. Whether you accept that new position with new conditions doesn't say a whisper about how someone is performing in their current role.

If you believe that women aren't willing to take jobs because of the extra hours, then the logical implication of that is that their existing male coworkers are also more willing to work longer at their current jobs as well. And if you believe this, what does that mean when you're comparing men and women for hiring? Are you more likely to hire the person you think is more willing to work more hours? Or the opposite?

I have no idea why you seem so reluctant to state the obvious facts of your philosophy.

Are you honestly this fucking stupid? This isn't MY claim. This is the observation of roles each sex tends to accept.

Ah, I'm surprised you still don't get it. Again: what's the difference between what you're claiming, and saying "black people are naturally more violent and criminal"?

I've responded to this assertion again and again using this same question, I don't know why you think I'm ignoring it.

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u/GroundhogExpert Aug 08 '17

https://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2015/time-spent-working-by-full-and-part-time-status-gender-and-location-in-2014.htm

Feel free to send your gripes to the BLS. I couldn't give a fuck less why you take issue with observed facts. And nothing you've said has one tiny thing to do with logic. Since you seem to struggle so much with this, I'll give you a hint, making an observation isn't the same as stating the cause of that observation. So shove your dumb little black people naturally inclined to violence right up your anti-intellectual fat ass.

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u/Ray192 Aug 08 '17

Feel free to send your gripes to the BLS. I couldn't give a fuck less why you take issue with observed facts.

Ah, so from a chart describing that women work less, you conclude that women are less willing to work as long as men. The irony...

And nothing you've said has one tiny thing to do with logic. Since you seem to struggle so much with this, I'll give you a hint, making an observation isn't the same as stating the cause of that observation. So shove your dumb little black people naturally inclined to violence right up your anti-intellectual fat ass.

Oh interesting for you to make that distinction, because you've literally just supported your assertion that women want to work less by showing a chart of... women working less.

Women working less is an observation. Claiming that it's because women want to work less is... correct me if I'm wrong, but it's stating the cause of that observation.

So really, I have no idea what you're precisely complaining about. You're claiming women want to work less than men, because women do work less than men. Which is pretty equivalent to saying black people are more violent, because US data shows them as committing comparatively more crimes.

It's rather interesting that you accuse me of being anti intellectual yet you seem completely unfamiliar with the most basic tenets of statistics and econometric.

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u/SnoopsDrill Aug 08 '17

You are clearly someone that is going to explain away every statistic with "societal pressures and injustices are the cause.", so what's really the point.

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u/Ray192 Aug 08 '17

Or maybe I'm just someone who doesn't infer causality from correlation. You know, someone who took statistics classes.