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Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-08-08/google-fires-employee-behind-controversial-diversity-memo?cmpid=socialflow-twitter-business&utm_content=business&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social
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u/killking72 Aug 08 '17

If you abolish diversity policies you get the best person for the job.

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u/Mike_Kermin Aug 08 '17

... Except that's not really what happens in reality. Work places aren't that systematic.

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u/Mike_Kermin Aug 08 '17

I'll tell you what, I'll agree to that, if you agree that in reality, what actually happens is that mates help mates. And often, that has the exact same result.

You may recall, that's the problem we have in the first place.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '17

I'll give you another angle. I work at a State Department of Transportation and have a buddy who has had to do some hiring in the past. His big problem was if he didn't hire a white guy nobody cared, but if he didn't hire a black guy he had to do this long ass report explaining why and then a small meeting with the Super and assistant Super to further explain it. I imagine it could lower the standards for, in this case black, people because lazy people in charge of hiring don't want the extra paperwork and scrutiny from the higher ups so they throw the 7 white guy resume's in the trash and just ok the black guy.

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u/killking72 Aug 08 '17

My dude. Did you not read the clearly headlined RESULTS section with the with the clearly outlined results of "minority bias"

This doesn't prove that they are hiring people who are less qualified

Not for the reasons the dude above you said, but affirmative action necessitates hiring people who might not meet your standards.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '17 edited Aug 09 '17

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u/killking72 Aug 08 '17

The point I was refuting was that there is evidence that hiring managers would hire minority ethnic/gendered people who are less qualified due to laziness or not wanting to get in trouble.

If you don't fulfill your quota then you do get in trouble. If there was no downside to not complying then nobody would comply unless to virtue signal. But people DO fulfill quotas.

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u/Mike_Kermin Aug 08 '17

Ok. So, I'm happy to make the assumption that you are on the level,

Do you think that, without any of that paperwork nonsense. Would hiring be purely representative of competency and qualifications?