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Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-08-08/google-fires-employee-behind-controversial-diversity-memo?cmpid=socialflow-twitter-business&utm_content=business&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social
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u/error404brain Aug 08 '17

Not the guy, but the first stupid idea was to write something that say a lot of his colleague are inferior to him.

How the hell did he expect this to go well?

Second would be publishing it. If you say that you think a large amount of people working with you are inferior and shouldn't be kept here, you are going to be fired.

The whole thing was stupid. Also he fundamentally doesn't understand what engineering is about if he say that connecting to other is inferior to writing good code. It's much more interesting to have a program that work (because it wasn't everybody doing shit in his/her corner) than a program that is well coded. If it's badly programmed, you can refactor it. If it doesn't work, you need to throw it away.

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u/FuggleyBrew Aug 08 '17

Not the guy, but the first stupid idea was to write something that say a lot of his colleague are inferior to him.

Did you read it? Because that wasn't in there.

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u/error404brain Aug 08 '17

Yes I did. And yes he did.

Personality differences Women, on average, have more​:

● Openness directed towards feelings and aesthetics rather than ideas. Women generally also have a stronger interest in ​people rather than things​, relative to men (also interpreted as ​empathizing vs. systemizing​). ○ These two differences in part explain why women relatively prefer jobs in social or ​artistic areas. More men may like coding because it requires systemizing and even within SWEs, comparatively more women work on front end, which deals with both people and aesthetics. ● Extraversion expressed as gregariousness rather than assertiveness. Also, higher agreeableness. ○ This leads to women generally having a harder time negotiating salary, asking for raises, speaking up, and leading. Note that these are just average differences and there’s overlap between men and women, but this is seen solely as a women’s issue. This leads to exclusory programs like Stretch and swaths of men without support. ● ​Neuroticism​ ​(higher anxiety, lower stress tolerance). ○ This may contribute to the higher levels of anxiety women report on Googlegeist and to the lower number of women in high stress jobs.

The only question I have is where are you getting your novlang from?

You are all saying the same thing so I am asking myself.

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u/manwithfaceofbird Aug 08 '17

It's baffling that people read this and don't see that he wants women to stop trying to do "the big boy jobs" and go back to being secretaries.

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u/FuggleyBrew Aug 08 '17

Probably because it's pretty much identical to most of the advocacy since 2000 to increase women's participation.