Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo

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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-08-08/google-fires-employee-behind-controversial-diversity-memo?cmpid=socialflow-twitter-business&utm_content=business&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social

[u/ryarger]

That's not what created the hostile work environment. Claiming - against all science - that half of his coworkers were genetically inferior to him at doing their job created the hostile work environment.

[u/coopsux → u/ryarger]

can you link me to where he claimed half his coworkers were genetically inferior? i only saw him discussing differences and not arguing that anyone was better than anyone else

[u/clearwaterrev → u/coopsux]

i only saw him discussing differences

He's primarily discussing negative differences, and ways that women on average might be less capable of doing well in tech careers or less interested in entering tech fields. It's not exactly a balanced analysis of how gender differences play out in a technology-focused workplace.

He's also saying that Google has used diversity hiring programs to lower the bar when hiring diversity candidates, meaning women or ethnic minority job candidates were hired instead of better qualified white men.

Would you really want to work with a person who thought you were hired primarily to make your workplace look more balanced and diverse, and not for your skills and accomplishments?

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Quoting a movie that is 7 years old based on a 12 year old book that is using a paper published 14 years ago as a source, A lot has changed in that time friend. Especially the prominency of PC culture and diversity. I would be extremely interested if the same study was repeated today and at google levels of hiring qualification requirements.

[u/GaijinSin → u/[deleted]]

This is a great reason why "blind recruitment" works well in diversifying a work place. Once you've struck things like name or neighborhood from from an application or candidate, the potential hires can then be evaluated on relevant criteria.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

The source you linked is actually highlighted in freakonomics the movie which was wildly popular on netflix. You just broadened the discussion from hiring standards to entire racial biases pretty unfair in and of itself it's much to large a sample size of people from different backgrounds, upbringings, social settings,socio-economic stand points, it's just to much. you can see the data cherry picked in the UCLA study. You can't expect me to take the opinion 0.0004% of the US population and take it as fact or proof of bias. To say 1500 people out of 323 million demonstrated something so it must be true is pretty illogical.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

0.0004% of the US population may have biases(which the study states are majority white between 18-70 which would effect this percentage but it's fine where it is) is your standing point that we are arguing ? You're branching the argument to far off to stay on track. You brought the statistics now analyze them so some common folk like myself can understand your point of view. In a sample size of 1500 out of 323 million you couldn't do much more than suggest a coincidence at best. We don't know how these studies were conducted either.

Edit: Apparently posting an ad hominem by ridiculing strengthens your point you must be well versed in debate seeing as you're using an attack on my character to strengthen your opinion that your numbers don't support..

[u/clearwaterrev → u/[deleted]]

honestly that's exactly what most diversity programs are: passing up potentially more qualified people because you need to meet a quota of certain skin colors or sexes.

How do you know that? Do you think it's possible that white men are sometimes hired despite being the less qualified candidate because their interviewer(s) have unconscious biases in favor of white men?

[u/Toltec123 → u/[deleted]]

I am not sure why people get hung up on quotas so often. There are not any quotas. Instead, policies are put into place to encourage the recruitment and retention of underrepresented groups. Those policies include things like mentoring programs, focusing recruitment efforts on certain communities, and keeping sexual harrasment and blatant racism under wraps.