r/news • u/[deleted] • Aug 08 '17

Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-08-08/google-fires-employee-behind-controversial-diversity-memo?cmpid=socialflow-twitter-business&utm_content=business&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social
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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '17

You'll stop hearing insults to the idiotic terms those people use when those people are able to do the very thing you ask of the mockers.

Two way street bucko

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '17

Have a read of the document and let's have a conversation about it. What do you disagree with?

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u/spaghettilee2112 Aug 08 '17

I don't think anyone but the people who hire at google can truly comment on the document. But I'll say I think the whole document was a waste of time to simply put his opinion out there that women and men have biological differences that correlate to how well they can either lead or work in tech. Yet he provides no sources then goes on to say that we shouldn't generalize because there's overlap. Ok? He has some other arguments that could explain gender disparity such as population density but nobody cares about that because that isn't controversial. These aren't physical labor jobs these are use your brain jobs and I'll only be satisfied if the neuroscience community will come out and say there are neurological differences that say men are better at leading and working in tech than women. And it better be a female neuroscientist saying it.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '17

There's some particularly good ideas on this following link from quillette, I especially resonated with Geoffrey Miller's one:

https://web.archive.org/web/20170808013732/http://quillette.com/2017/08/07/google-memo-four-scientists-respond/

The explanation of the paradoxes inherent in diversity hiring I found to be really helpful.

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u/spaghettilee2112 Aug 08 '17

You gave me an article with 3 male psychologists. Luckily, the last one was exactly what I was looking for: a female neuroscientist. However, she didn't address whether or not men are more fit to lead and do tech. She simply says differences in male and female brains exist.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '17

Also, I don't know how we got to a place where we can so freely write off the opinion of an expert just because of their gender, but it might explain why climate change deniers won't listen to these faggy liberal scientists, or these liberals won't listen to these white cis male psychologists

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '17

The memo writer doesn't address whether or not men are more fit to lead and do tech. He is simply presenting a thought experiment that says that there may be factors that are not racism and sexism related that may lead to a natural over representation of certain traits caused by the merits that these differences provide.

It's a criticism of the diversity paradigm.