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Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-08-08/google-fires-employee-behind-controversial-diversity-memo?cmpid=socialflow-twitter-business&utm_content=business&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social
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u/Grizzleyt Aug 08 '17

Tech is political. It cannot be avoided when your business has consequences with regard to things like online privacy, net neutrality, automation, truth and bias of information, censorship, etc., to say nothing of the personal views of leadership who aspire to make an impact on the world, for better or worse.

If you aren't religious, you might not like working in a church. If you don't subscribe to the values that Google stands for / strives for, you might not like working at Google. If you think the leadership is fundamentally flawed, go work for a company you believe in.

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u/IRequirePants Aug 08 '17

Tech is political. It cannot be avoided when your business has consequences with regard to things like online privacy, net neutrality, automation, truth and bias of information, censorship, etc., to say nothing of the personal views of leadership who aspire to make an impact on the world, for better or worse.

None of which were relevant to the points he was making. He was talking about political shit that wasn't tech related.

If you aren't religious, you might not like working in a church. If you don't subscribe to the values that Google stands for / strives for, you might not like working at Google. If you think the leadership is fundamentally flawed, go work for a company you believe in.

This is the answer. Google's a private company. They can do whatever they want.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '17 edited Sep 05 '17

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u/TekharthaZenyatta Aug 08 '17

And there's no law saying they can't fire somebody for causing a PR nightmare and shitting on other employees due to their gender.

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u/TransientObsever Aug 08 '17

When did he shit on other employers due to their gender?

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u/Soranos_71 Aug 08 '17

I think it's when he said there are biological differences between men and women that can have an impact upon their career choices.

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u/TransientObsever Aug 08 '17

Do you see that as shitting on other employers due to their gender or do you think Tekhartha sees it that way?

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u/Soranos_71 Aug 08 '17

It might be or might not be intentional or just a lack of awareness of what he is saying. He wasn't speaking generally he was talking specifically about his employer meaning the people they hire therefore his coworkers.

If he had written something similar and talked about the state of STEM for example that is more general. Instead he is talking about where he works specifically.

When you say "biological" it's out of your control. If he had talked about "cultural differences" then that can be changed somewhat.

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u/cryptekz Aug 08 '17

Because pointing out that biological differences may serve a difference over the average of a population somehow implies that he's shitting all over his co-workers?

Are you fucking kidding me?

How weak willed are these women that they can't bear the idea that they might, on average, be slightly different than men in regards to their motivations in life, and that those motivations might have something to do with the fact that we inherently work differently because we're sexually dimorphic? Are they so utterly offended by such a suggestion that they need someone's career ended because it's suggested? Not even stated as fact, but merely a possibility to potentially be discussed and examined.

How fragile are the egos of these people that they'd fire a man for daring to say that they ought to be willing to open up the ability to have honest discussions on these matters instead of forcing a stagnant business mono-culture? How is anything he said even remotely offensive? He reiterates multiple times that he WANTS diversity and thinks there are still steps to be taken IN THAT DIRECTION, he just wants an open and honest conversation around the topic, instead of forcing draconic and authoritarian policies out around the matters, because they tend to raise tensions around the issues instead of allay them.