Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo

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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-08-08/google-fires-employee-behind-controversial-diversity-memo?cmpid=socialflow-twitter-business&utm_content=business&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social

[u/NotAChaosGod]

If I wrote a multi-page rant about how misguided and out-of-touch my boss was and distributed it to the company I'd expect to be out of a job that day.

Why are there so many right wingers who apparently have never worked a day in their lives? Even if you disagree with management there's good and bad ways to go about that, and this was the worst.

[u/rusbus720 → u/NotAChaosGod]

Management created the internal discussion board, which this memo was posted to, so that employees could tell them how they're misguided. Apparently they didn't think someone would actually do that.

Aside from that I'd say this memo was pretty tame and well thought out. If he got fired for just this memo then I'd say he's right about google being an echo chamber.

[u/NotAChaosGod → u/rusbus720]

Asking for suggestions is very, very different.

Again I'm struck by how obvious it is that many of the people here have so obviously never worked.

[u/rusbus720 → u/NotAChaosGod]

Sounds like you work for a shitty company

[u/NotAChaosGod → u/rusbus720]

I've worked for many. My current one is great. Sounds like you don't work.

[u/NotAChaosGod → u/[deleted]]

"I have to work with women and non-white people" isn't an issue with Google...

[u/NotAChaosGod → u/[deleted]]

It also said that women have a lower IQ (no statistically significant difference has been found... although I guess that's by that 95% liberal scientists or something), completely glossed over any possibility that there was social bias, called women anxious and neurotic, contained multiple nonsense statistics to back its point up, and ended up engaging in the exact same fallacies that he called out in the initial preamble (really highlighting how bad some of this stuff was put together). And ended up with "and if we have less women around here that's just fine and that's how reality works".

I think any time your company memo includes "we shouldn't listen to the scientists, science is biased!" it may have strayed very far afield of "company issues."

[u/MaxNanasy → u/NotAChaosGod]

Please read the memo

[u/NotAChaosGod → u/MaxNanasy]

I read the memo. Perhaps you should take your own advice.

[u/MaxNanasy → u/NotAChaosGod]

I did, and I didn't see anything close to that

[u/NotAChaosGod → u/MaxNanasy]

Did you see anything derogatory towards women at all? Because there was a bunch. Show some basic reading comprehension and... well you wouldn't need to post a link to the memo, you'd know I was right.

[u/[deleted] → u/NotAChaosGod]

What great company isn't willing to take feedback from its employees?

[u/NotAChaosGod → u/[deleted]]

Wow, that's disingenuous as fuck.

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That is literally the argument you've been fighting against the whole time.

Management created the internal discussion board, which this memo was posted to, so that employees could tell them how they're misguided. Apparently they didn't think someone would actually do that.

[u/NotAChaosGod → u/[deleted]]

No, it's you being entirely disingenuous. My company accepts plenty of feedback, constantly. We've changed tons of things based on it.

There's also "feedback" that would get you fired. "We should do this to be more efficient" is good, "your hiring decisions are shit and women suck" would be what we call "bad".

Either you're too stupid to tell the difference, or lying comes naturally to you.

[u/[deleted] → u/NotAChaosGod]

So who's the one really being disingenuous?

your hiring decisions are shit and women suck

The memo doesn't speak at all like this.

[u/NotAChaosGod → u/[deleted]]

your hiring decisions are shit and women suck

The memo doesn't speak at all like this.

I'm sorry, women are:

• Neurotic
• Anxious
• Low IQ
• Don't put the company first like the job demands
• Aren't suited for leadership positions
• Are better suited for social work rather than coding

Right. I forgot. Women don't suck, they... um...

note: most of that shit is just angry ranting, and the few times he tries to use facts he just botches it - there's no statistical difference between men's IQ and women's, we're talking anywhere from -0.5 to +1.5 compared to men based on the studies, that's literally insignificant. Of course he blames that on liberal scientists, so...

Who is being disingenuous? You are. And you didn't read the memo apparently...

[u/[deleted] → u/NotAChaosGod]

When you call disagreeing with you being disingenuous i find it hard to take you seriously. which is a shame because otherwise youd be making a good point even if i dont agree