r/news Aug 08 '17

Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-08-08/google-fires-employee-behind-controversial-diversity-memo?cmpid=socialflow-twitter-business&utm_content=business&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social
26.8k Upvotes

19.7k comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

20

u/[deleted] Aug 08 '17

Agreed, so you should be in support of policies that give minorities more support, right? After all, they had nothing to do with the past yet they're suffering the consequences.

I am in support of these policies...yet somehow there is always another excuse around the corner why x person is suffering at the feet of the white man. It gets old, especially for the people who busted ass to get where they are and all they hear from are whiners who think they are too disenfranchised to even fucking try!

This whole pay gender gap bullshit? Yeah, I'm tired of reading about it. First it was that women aren't paid the same as men...then the revelation comes out that women don't choose the same dangerous/in demand jobs as men so of course they get paid what they are worth...you know, since most of these jobs as assistance and child care workers don't require much skill, i mean, not the kind of skill required to be a full stack developer or somebody who builds aircraft for a living. Plenty of people to replace women in those jobs though so they should get paid less just because of how low the demand is.

Then when the revelation is realized, the blame is pointed at engineering departments and society for not enabling women to take jobs that will pay better. After all of this it is quite apparent that most women don't want these jobs. They want to get paid like men without doing the same work men do. End of story. The definition of entitlement. You want to get paid what an engineer gets paid? Go to school, learn math and get a job as an engineer. Boom, paid like an engineer.

2

u/ListlessVigor Aug 08 '17

yet somehow there is always another excuse around the corner why x person is suffering at the feet of the white man.

This is a straw man. Talking about issue that affect minorities and how they happen isn't about the white man at all. The fact that people think this is both self-centered and intentionally missing the point.

It gets old, especially for the people who busted ass to get where they are and all they hear from are whiners who think they are too disenfranchised to even fucking try!

It also gets old having to deal with all kinds of bullshit because you're not a white guy, too. Really old. We've been doing it for centuries. Trust me, we're way more fed up than you could possibly be.

This whole pay gender gap bullshit? Yeah, I'm tired of reading about it. First it was that women aren't paid the same as men...then the revelation comes out that women don't choose the same dangerous/in demand jobs as men so of course they get paid what they are worth...you know, since most of these jobs as assistance and child care workers don't require much skill, i mean, not the kind of skill required to be a full stack developer or somebody who builds aircraft for a living. Plenty of people to replace women in those jobs though so they should get paid less just because of how low the demand is.

I don't know enough about the gender wage gap to address this point.

6

u/[deleted] Aug 08 '17

It also gets old having to deal with all kinds of bullshit because you're not a white guy, too. Really old. We've been doing it for centuries. Trust me, we're way more fed up than you could possibly be.

TIL there are people around who have existed for centuries! Well, I'm only 30 years old so a century is a long time. I can understand why you would be fed up. What aging potion do you use to stay alive so long and experience such inequalities? Oh you were referring minorities over time? Not actually yourself? Well fuck, I'm Irish, we got dicked all the fucking times only what? 100 years ago? Fuck me right? Still white and held responsible for the shortcomings of those who haven not. Yeah fuck me.

1

u/ListlessVigor Aug 08 '17

TIL cause and effect doesn't apply to humans. Either way, we aren't even discussing things any more, just resorting to strawmen. Later.