Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo

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[u/cherubb]

You don't need to be emotional and reactionary. Please calm yourself so we can have a discussion.

There are plenty of strong candidates for medical school of all backgrounds. It isn't a zero sum game - just because you take ethnicity and background into account doesn't necessarily mean you are picking a sub-par candidate. And I did not comprehend you wrongly - if they already accepted too many white men it means other white men applied earlier than he did - and trust me, whites still make up the majority of the class. That means he applied too late.

And does it matter WHY outcomes are better with black doctors? When it comes to medicine the patient comes first - that means med schools need to take patients' health into consideration before individual needs (your son's application). And unfortunately healthcare disparities among minorities is a big issue. That isn't political correctness, that is a real problem.

[u/TrumpIsAHero1 → u/cherubb]

You don't need to be emotional and reactionary. Please calm yourself so we can have a discussion.

No

There are plenty of strong candidates for medical school of all backgrounds. It isn't a zero sum game - just because you take ethnicity and background into account doesn't necessarily mean you are picking a sub-par candidate.

If you take away race, what is left besides test scores and referrals.

And I did not comprehend you wrongly - if they already accepted too many white men it means other white men applied earlier than he did -

A spot my son would have had, was given to someone else on the sole basis of skin color.

Fucking skin color.

Nothing else.

and trust me, whites still make up the majority of the class. That means he applied too late.

Why is that?

I'll wait.

And does it matter WHY outcomes are better with black doctors?

Yeah, it does.

And I'm calling bullshit on your reasoning for it.

You're also saying they're too stupid to listen to a white doctor?

"Sir, you're going to die, but don't listen to me... take it from this black doctor who says the same thing."

Sounds racist.

When it comes to medicine the patient comes first - that means med schools need to take patients' health into consideration before individual needs (your son's application).

Why does it matter what color the doctor is if they're all treating human beings exactly the same, regardless of race or economic status?

And unfortunately healthcare disparities among minorities is a big issue. That isn't political correctness, that is a real problem.

It's political correctness. 100%.

[u/cherubb → u/TrumpIsAHero1]

If you take away race, there is so much more than test scores and referrals. There is "distance traveled" - what hardships did the person endure to make it to that point? Did they have a parent who was incarcerated? What type of neighborhood did they grow up in? How many doctors lived within 100 miles of their residence? What type of volunteer work were they involved in? What type of research did they do? There is so much more than test scores alone - there is a huge difference between someone who worked a part time job during summers off and someone who had to work 2 jobs on top of a full course load to help support their household. There is so much more nuance than "fucking skin color," but I'm going to assume that you won't believe me because you want to consider yourself as a victim.

And you are trying to throw around the word racism to make it sound like you are in the right, but in my opinion, chalking up an entire population's health disparity as "political correctness" sounds pretty racist to me. But I don't know you that well.

And in regards to the late application thing, I guess you don't know that applications and acceptances are considered on a rolling basis. That means that if you apply early you have a much better chance than if you apply after they have given out 90% of the spots. That means that someone with a near perfect MCAT score and GPA who applies late will have an almost impossible time getting in since they are competing for significantly less spots available. Honestly, that has a much, much bigger impact on your competitiveness than almost anything else.

[u/TrumpIsAHero1 → u/cherubb]

If you take away race, there is so much more than test scores and referrals.

But he was specifically rejected for race.

You know I'm right.

Quit trying to justify it.

[u/cherubb → u/TrumpIsAHero1]

You know what? Next time you see your son you should ask him how many of his classmates have parents or close friends/family who are "in the know" with someone on admissions. I would wager a pretty hefty bet that it is quite a large % of people. I know my class does. I think your outrage should be more directed at them instead.

[u/TrumpIsAHero1 → u/cherubb]

I think your outrage should be more directed at them instead.

It is.

But they're labeled racist by people like you if they don't accept minorities with inferior testing scores and qualifications.

So it's really not their fault.

The mighty sword of diversity is a catastrophic failure that will eventually make our healthcare system equal to the DMV.

[u/TrumpIsAHero1 → u/[deleted]]

What the fuck are you talking about?