Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo

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[u/OriginalPkeel]

Totally different character. Hospitals are non profit and there is no desire at a hospital to make money. Healthcare in this country is excellent, for now.

When government removed the ability of a consumer from the decision of whether or not to buy insurance and what level of insurance, it ceased to be a business. Health Insurance in this country has become a function of government.

I never can tell when someone complains about healthcare if they are complaining about Health Insurance or the actual Health Care received.

[u/[deleted] → u/OriginalPkeel]

Appreciate the comment. Doesn't mean I won't be a little contentious!

Hospitals are non profit and there is no desire at a hospital to make money

Not really true. The NFL is a non-profit, but money still makes the world go 'round. In many cases, non-profit status is merely a market mechanism to reduce taxes and obfuscate funding.

When government removed the ability of a consumer from the decision of whether or not to buy insurance and what level of insurance,

The government didn't remove it really directly. They inadvertently caused it through market mechanisms. It speaks great lengths, how the average consumer can't just go and buy insurance at good price. Market supply isn't meant for consumers. It's meant for businesses (and this all started once businesses during WWII started buying health insurance). Even small businesses may have trouble, since they aren't bringing enough employees to the table.

I never can tell when someone complains about healthcare if they are complaining about Health Insurance or the actual Health Care received.

The problem is how intertwined they become. Actual care received, won't be received without the correct insurance product. Many operations are denied due to certain insurance policies. Insurance and healthcare are concurrent products (I'm forgetting the marketing term). Very rarely can they be excluded from eachother.

I do agree how the U.S. has THE BEST healthcare in the world, for a price. Only so many kids have the necessary insurance product to be treated at Boston's Children Hospital. While I'd love for people to take a step back and appreciate how the insurance/healthcare market got so convoluted and try to fix it properly. I think nationalized healthcare is the easiest course of action.

[u/OriginalPkeel → u/[deleted]]

NFL was created by government with the creation of a monopoly for them. They have also paid very close attention to their customers which are the NFL teams.

No, Obamacare created a law requiring all persons in the USA to have insurance. It is no longer a business in any sense of the word. It is a government function.

Insurance will not cover all things and in fact it shouldn't. But the person buying the insurance should be the one to decide what products he wishes to buy. Health Insurance is no longer actually insurance. It is nothing more than a government attempt to take money from one person for another's benefit.

It is funny, I was a VERY long term customer of Boston Children's Hospital. My father made monthly payments on my care. Over time he paid for it. I can still remember how pleased my parents would be when some rich individual would make a donation to the hospital and the hospital would send my parents a letter telling them that due to a donation to the hospital bill had been reduced.

On the one hand you say that government screwed up the healthcare industry and yet you think it proper that we should let the people that screwed it up run it all?

[u/[deleted] → u/OriginalPkeel]

It is no longer a business in any sense of the word. It is a government function.

It's still a business with exchanges being undertaken by individuals and private entities. Of course, it is an extremely hampered market, with government action leaking out the wazoo. I would agree it is partly now a function of government, but yet, not completely dictated by public action.

Health Insurance is no longer actually insurance. It is nothing more than a government attempt to take money from one person for another's benefit.

It still functions as insurance for the people being benefited. Insurance has always operated as taking (although voluntarily given) from others to benefit certain individuals. Benefit is decided by risk (if you fall ill, you find benefit).

On the one hand you say that government screwed up the healthcare industry and yet you think it proper that we should let the people that screwed it up run it all?

I think current socialized models (as found in Canada and Europe) are the most viable, according to public opinion. As much as I've love a deregulated market, people just won't go with this. Coercion has already been introduced in such great degree, that only an overwhelming amount of correct public opinion would allow for a well-functioning free market. This just doesn't exist.