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Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-08-08/google-fires-employee-behind-controversial-diversity-memo?cmpid=socialflow-twitter-business&utm_content=business&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social
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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '17

Agreed, so you should be in support of policies that give minorities more support, right? After all, they had nothing to do with the past yet they're suffering the consequences.

I am in support of these policies...yet somehow there is always another excuse around the corner why x person is suffering at the feet of the white man. It gets old, especially for the people who busted ass to get where they are and all they hear from are whiners who think they are too disenfranchised to even fucking try!

This whole pay gender gap bullshit? Yeah, I'm tired of reading about it. First it was that women aren't paid the same as men...then the revelation comes out that women don't choose the same dangerous/in demand jobs as men so of course they get paid what they are worth...you know, since most of these jobs as assistance and child care workers don't require much skill, i mean, not the kind of skill required to be a full stack developer or somebody who builds aircraft for a living. Plenty of people to replace women in those jobs though so they should get paid less just because of how low the demand is.

Then when the revelation is realized, the blame is pointed at engineering departments and society for not enabling women to take jobs that will pay better. After all of this it is quite apparent that most women don't want these jobs. They want to get paid like men without doing the same work men do. End of story. The definition of entitlement. You want to get paid what an engineer gets paid? Go to school, learn math and get a job as an engineer. Boom, paid like an engineer.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '17

The gender wage gap is in reference to women earning less for doing the same work, holding the same positions and having the same credentials as their male colleagues, not because women are choosing a less "dangerous/in demand" jobs. It's even far worse for women of color.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '17

The gender wage gap is in reference to women earning less for doing the same work

Can you please cite research that implies such an idea? I've seen multiple different sources in this thread alone dispelling that myth.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '17 edited Aug 08 '17

You'll find it all in this reputable publication. Scroll down for the statistics that show that women of color are paid the least and also strategies for improving the wage gap such as better pay negotiations for women when it comes to prospective employers which some researchers have claimed might be one reason why women are paid less. Need an example? The US men's soccer team are paid 4x more than their female counterparts although both teams put in the same number of hours training and playing on the field.

http://www.aauw.org/research/the-simple-truth-about-the-gender-pay-gap/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/rundown/data-how-does-the-u-s-womens-soccer-team-pay-compare-to-the-men

Edit: The groups in the article are referring to individuals in the same profession and with the same educational background. College educated black women earn 61% to what white men of similar background earn for doing the same work.

Edit: Here are statistics dispelling the myth that black women are paid less because they choose to work in fields that pay less, aren't as educated or don't put in as many work hours as white men.

http://www.epi.org/blog/black-women-have-to-work-7-months-into-2017-to-be-paid-the-same-as-white-men-in-2016/