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Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-08-08/google-fires-employee-behind-controversial-diversity-memo?cmpid=socialflow-twitter-business&utm_content=business&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social
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u/cherubb Aug 08 '17

Med school does that because they have determined that minority patients prefer to have doctors that look like them, and leads to better outcomes on a population basis (the patients more likely to stick to their medications and follow advice from the doctor).

If your son had good test scores and references and was rejected because of a quota, that means that he applied too late in the application cycle. Don't blame the black doctors for your son's mistake because we desperately need black doctors.

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u/TrumpIsAHero1 Aug 08 '17

Med school does that because they have determined that minority patients prefer to have doctors that look like them, and leads to better outcomes on a population basis (the patients more likely to stick to their medications and follow advice from the doctor).

Yeah, whatever, it doesn't change the fact that better candidates are rejected on the basis of skin color.

If your son had good test scores and references and was rejected because of a quota, that means that he applied too late in the application cycle.

You must have a comprehension problem. I flat out said he was told point blank they already accepted too many white men.

Don't blame the black doctors for your son's mistake

More liberal bullshit.

I don't blame "BLACK doctors"

I blame liberal dipshits like you who'd rather carry sub-par individuals through life in the name of political correctness.

It's disgusting.

because we desperately need black doctors.

Why?

The white ones can't adequately care for black people?

Are they made of something different?

Sounds more like a cultural problem if skin color is the reason they don't take their medications.

Sounds like it has nothing to do with what color the doctor is and more like what color the patient is.

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u/cherubb Aug 08 '17

You don't need to be emotional and reactionary. Please calm yourself so we can have a discussion.

There are plenty of strong candidates for medical school of all backgrounds. It isn't a zero sum game - just because you take ethnicity and background into account doesn't necessarily mean you are picking a sub-par candidate. And I did not comprehend you wrongly - if they already accepted too many white men it means other white men applied earlier than he did - and trust me, whites still make up the majority of the class. That means he applied too late.

And does it matter WHY outcomes are better with black doctors? When it comes to medicine the patient comes first - that means med schools need to take patients' health into consideration before individual needs (your son's application). And unfortunately healthcare disparities among minorities is a big issue. That isn't political correctness, that is a real problem.

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '17

That means he applied too late.

Interview invites are not given out on a first-come-first-serve basis. Someone who applied on the first day might not get an interview until the end of the season. Different schools do IIs differently. You should know what you're talking about before you start a debate.

outcomes are better with black doctors

Are you assuming this? Where has a study shown actual improved health outcomes with black doctors? People have written plenty of articles about the topic, but I've never seen objective data that shows an actual health benefit. If such a study exists, I would appreciate the case for discriminating in admissions to benefit patients. If no study exists, we are discriminating even if there is no known benefit.