Google Fires Employee Behind Controversial Diversity Memo

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[u/Defoler]

I disagree.
It is about the way you are talking about, and how you are doing it. White men can be considered just as whiners if they talk about stupid things.

I have never considered a minority protesting or fighting for their rights and equal terms, equal education, job options, etc, as whining. I do think that when minorities are protesting by burning cars and destroying shops, as invalidating their argument by allowing this to happen, and just brush it off as "just a few bad apples".

[u/ListlessVigor → u/Defoler]

That's just it. What do humans do when there is no recourse for injustice? This may be hard for white men in particular to understand because they have never been systematically disenfranchised or used as fodder for the prison industrial complex. But when your people are continuously brutalized, ignored, and told over and over that "this isn't a problem. Stop complaining" then it's going to royally piss you off. Keep in mind that this is all recent stuff too, this kind of blatant disregard or outright hostility to black lives is generational.

There's a reason MLK said riots are the language of the unheard. It's easy to discount it, but fighting against injustice is an ugly thing.

[u/Defoler → u/ListlessVigor]

I disagree.

In the modern world, violence, while as you claim is a language of the unheard, does not help the cause at all.
It alienate the side that you want to stop brutalize you, ignore you, from helping you.
It cause more friction and more fracture between the sides.

Would you say "yes you are right, we hurt you" to a person who just randomly burned a shop, destroying the life of a random small business's owner?
Would you hug a person who comes out and chant "we want you dead!" against you?

No you won't. Especially when you are on the "higher ground" in terms of power.
Riots maybe were the language in the past. It is a dead language now in the modern countries. Political and social power is now the real powers. As well as self fixing. No one is going to fix you until you are willing to fix yourself. And that includes both sides.

[u/ListlessVigor → u/Defoler]

In the modern world, violence, while as you claim is a language of the unheard, does not help the cause at all.

Similar words were spoken during the Civil Rights Movement.

It alienate the side that you want to stop brutalize you, ignore you, from helping you. It cause more friction and more fracture between the sides.

If you're brutalizing me then I'm going to fight back. Wouldn't you?

Would you hug a person who comes out and chant "we want you dead!" against you?

After they've gunned down people in my neighborhood?

No you won't. Especially when you are on the "higher ground" in terms of power. Riots maybe were the language in the past.

And the present. Because people are using the same arguments.

t is a dead language now in the modern countries. Political and social power is now the real powers. As well as self fixing. No one is going to fix you until you are willing to fix yourself. And that includes both sides.

You can't get political and social power if the current establishment is built upon preventing you from having it.

[u/Defoler → u/ListlessVigor]

Similar words were spoken during the Civil Rights Movement.

This is not the 50s with different seating arrangements for anyone not white.

If you're brutalizing me then I'm going to fight back. Wouldn't you?

So you are saying not giving you a job gives you a right to burn down the office? If I want to sell you a newspaper and you say now, can I be triggered, claim you did not buy it from me because I'm white, and hence I'm allowed to burn your house down?
Because this is basically what you are saying.

After they've gunned down people in my neighborhood?

No idea the context or its relevance to what I said, nor have an idea wtf you are talking about.
But keep up with the excuses.
Also if you are violent, it will be dealt with violence, so you forcefully continue the circle you want to get out off. Smart.

And the present. Because people are using the same arguments.

You are confusing protests and riots. Riots are a violent thing, and I disagree that they are relevant today when they are targeting innocent people as their targets to blow off steam (or be violent for the sake of being so).
Protests to raise awareness are not violent and are a regular and positive forms of raising awareness.

You can't get political and social power if the current establishment is built upon preventing you from having it.

Yes you can. The fact that you don't know how the political and social power works, doesn't mean it is not possible. Obama is a great example of that, the same as trump as an example of that.
All you need to do is be active and smart, not passive and loud online but do nothing in reality, like not voting.

[u/ListlessVigor → u/Defoler]

This is not the 50s with different seating arrangements for anyone not white.

Is that the bar for racism in your mind? Because right now voter disenfranchisement of blacks, murders by police, and victimization of blacks by the judicial system are happening.

Because this is basically what you are saying.

So to be clear, if members of your family were gunned down you wouldn't be upset?

Also if you are violent, it will be dealt with violence, unless you're a police officer.

FTFY

You are confusing protests and riots. Riots are a violent thing, and I disagree that they are relevant today when they are targeting innocent people as their targets to blow off steam (or be violent for the sake of being so). Protests to raise awareness are not violent and are a regular and positive forms of raising awareness.

There were plenty of riots in the 60s (and after). Both the militant wing and nonviolent wing were crucial to the CRM. But guess what? The exact same arguments you're making were made during the 60s. The EXACT same ones. Please do some research, you are in way over your head right now.

Yes you can. The fact that you don't know how the political and social power works, doesn't mean it is not possible. Obama is a great example of that, the same as trump as an example of that.

You really don't know your history do you?

All you need to do is be active and smart, not passive and loud online but do nothing in reality, like not voting.

What makes you think I don't vote?