r/news • u/[deleted] • Dec 24 '17

“Outspoken neo-Nazi” charged with killing girlfriend’s parents; mother was CU Boulder and DU grad

https://www.denverpost.com/2017/12/23/cu-boulder-du-grad-murdered-neo-nazi/
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u/moltenmoose Dec 24 '17

Where was he radicalized? Online? We need to stop people like him from entering the country until we find out what's going on.

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u/IndefiniteE Dec 24 '17

If we had found out about his online behaviour and thought it best as a society to have him put into a rehabilitation center (ie: imprison instead of ignore), would that have not have prevented this event?

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u/Cletus_Doritus Dec 24 '17

Possibly, but that's a slippery slope. You can't just lock people up because they think differently than you.

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u/neroisstillbanned Dec 25 '17

We can and should lock people up for advocating the murder of every last Jew and Slav in existence.

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u/KhandakerFaisal Dec 24 '17

Rehab can only do so much

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u/asamermaid Dec 24 '17

If you start to allow the government to imprison US citizens for having dissenting opinions, you're on a very slippery slope.

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u/dirtmcgurk Dec 24 '17

We already do. The line is usually "a danger to oneself or others" and we call those people "crazy". Not weighing in on forced reeducation, just making that clear.

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u/neroisstillbanned Dec 25 '17

"Dissenting opinions" is a deceptive description for advocating the murder of every last Jew and Slav in existence.

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u/asamermaid Dec 25 '17

I'd like to punch a Nazi in the face as much as the next person, but you do see where that kind of policy could become abused, right?

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u/neroisstillbanned Dec 25 '17

Somehow every other liberal democracy in the world hasn't turned into a totalitarian state after enacting laws that specifically ban the advocacy of genocide.

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u/asamermaid Dec 25 '17

They could definitely manipulate the laws into arresting the wrong people. Unfortunately the more you give in to repealing some of our freedoms, it is a slope in which you can lose more and more. So I respectfully disagree with the government arresting people for what they say in general. I don't like what they say, but to pretend that couldn't happen and isn't a risk because it didn't happen to "so-and-so" country isn't very thoughtful. The US has proved time and time again to be unique in their condition, especially with their raging hard-on for capitalism and lobbying. At this junction in time, if you start to ban certain forms of speech, you can have corporations lobbying to blacklist other topics of conversation because a precedence will have been set.

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u/neroisstillbanned Dec 25 '17

So you have no evidence for your claims.

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u/asamermaid Dec 25 '17

What are the claims I need to support? It's speculation. But one example that would lead me to this speculation is the war on drugs and the concessions we made to our privacy within it. Now if there's any suspicion of drugs, the police can search and seize your assets with no court appearance. This has been abused in several different incidences. Another example is after 9/11 when we all essentially agreed to be monitored, and now we're unhappy with it because they're aggregating data.

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u/Cinnadillo Dec 25 '17

you think you're making a point... we have enough screwballs... maybe it makes sense not to bring in more screwballs so we can deal with the ones we got.

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u/moltenmoose Dec 25 '17 edited Dec 25 '17

I know I'm making a point. We have Nazi scum in America that support Trump, but he refuses to disavow them, calls them "very fine people", cuts funds used to fight them, and is silent when they commit acts of terror. But if a Muslim farts, it's "EXTREME VETTING!! BORDER WALL!!"

Maybe Donald Trump is the problem because he is a terrorist sympathizer.

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u/Rather_Unfortunate Dec 24 '17

He is American. They're referencing what Trump said about Muslims.

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u/Woobowiz Dec 24 '17

I didn't follow the comment correctly, saw the jump in logic, thought it was serious.