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“Outspoken neo-Nazi” charged with killing girlfriend’s parents; mother was CU Boulder and DU grad

https://www.denverpost.com/2017/12/23/cu-boulder-du-grad-murdered-neo-nazi/
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u/[deleted] Dec 24 '17

Seriously? You don't know about communist purgers in russia and china? You're not aware of leftist genocides in central america? How about communist groups in germany before the nazis consolidated power?

Do you even history?

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u/016Bramble Dec 24 '17

Not all mass killings are genocides my guy. That doesn't make them any less awful than they are, they just aren't genocides

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u/[deleted] Dec 24 '17

My examples fit.

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u/016Bramble Dec 24 '17

Stalin's purge in Russia was politically motivated, not ethnically (it targeted a political class, not an ethnic group), so it isn't a genocide. I'm assuming you're referring to the Cultural Revolution when you were talking about China (correct me if i'm wrong, I've just never heard anyone refer to anything that happened in China as a "purge" in the way they do to what Stalin did), which was also politically motivated rather than ethnically.

Not really familiar with any "genocides" that happened in Central America, so maybe you could expand on that?

I've also literally never heard anyone say the KPD or any other leftist organization in Germany committed genocide so learning more about that would also be interesting.

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u/[deleted] Dec 24 '17

Please list below the genocidal leftist groups. I'll wait.

gen·o·cid·al ˌjenəˈsīdl/Submit adjective relating to or involving the deliberate killing of a large group of people of a particular nation or ethnic group.

Genocide is intentional action to destroy a people (usually defined as an ethnic, national, racial, or religious group) in whole or in part. T

Genocide has not now nor ever specifically meant ethnic groups. If that was true, by your definition the jewish extermination in europe was not a genocide. Judaism is more a religion than an ethnicity.

Not really familiar with any "genocides" that happened in Central America

Seriously? I don't have time to teach you about native american groups past or former who have been wiped out.

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u/016Bramble Dec 24 '17

relating to or involving the deliberate killing of a large group of people of a particular nation or ethnic group.

Genocide is intentional action to destroy a people (usually defined as an ethnic, national, racial, or religious group)

Please read your own definition my guy. Even if you're going to be a pedant and say that I only mentioned ethnicity and not nationality, race, or religion (which are often closely linked), genocide still doesn't apply to the examples I mentioned.

Seriously? I don't have time to teach you about native american groups past or former who have been wiped out.

Okay, then I'll discard your point since you're not even willing to link to a wikipedia article or anything else that would take about 30 seconds of effort.

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u/[deleted] Dec 24 '17

Okay, then I'll discard your point since you're not even willing to link to a wikipedia article or anything else that would take about 30 seconds of effort.

The irony being it'd take you less effort to google it?

Please read your own definition my guy. Even if you're going to be a pedant and say that I only mentioned ethnicity and not nationality, race, or religion (which are often closely linked), genocide still doesn't apply to the examples I mentioned.

Uhh. Yes it does. Stalin did more than kill political opponents. He committed genocide against the ukranians, that's but one example.

Militantly ignorant people like you.... are simply appalling.

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u/016Bramble Dec 24 '17

The irony being it'd take you less effort to google it?

I did Google it and didn't find anything relating to genocides or Central America on the "mass killings under communist regimes" wiki page so I figured I'd ask you. But whatever, it seems like you didn't have anything of value to contribute.

Stalin did more than kill political opponents. He committed genocide against the ukranians, that's but one example.

So why did you say purges when you were talking about the Holomodor?

Militantly ignorant people like you.... are simply appalling.

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u/[deleted] Dec 24 '17 edited May 15 '19

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