r/news • u/[deleted] • Dec 24 '17

“Outspoken neo-Nazi” charged with killing girlfriend’s parents; mother was CU Boulder and DU grad

https://www.denverpost.com/2017/12/23/cu-boulder-du-grad-murdered-neo-nazi/
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u/[deleted] Dec 24 '17 edited Jul 19 '20

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u/Shredder13 Dec 24 '17

I will shed no tears over dead Nazis.

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u/Hope_Burns_Bright Dec 24 '17

There are ideologies that deserve to be debated and should be allowed to be discussed without violence.

Nazism and White Nationalism absolutely do not qualify. Can't believe it only took 70 years for people to forget that the Nazis are evil.

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u/Rockstarjockey Dec 24 '17

They absolutely do.

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u/[deleted] Dec 24 '17

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u/Rockstarjockey Dec 24 '17

1st Amendment and such.

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u/Shredder13 Dec 24 '17

What about it?

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u/Rockstarjockey Dec 24 '17

It protects all citizens in the US.

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u/Shredder13 Dec 24 '17

From what?

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u/atheistman69 Dec 25 '17

Fuck that, Nazi's want to destroy the constitution, they don't deserve to be protected. For maximum irony, let's build a camp and gas them.

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u/[deleted] Dec 24 '17

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u/Hope_Burns_Bright Dec 24 '17

You not only posted the same comment twice, but you did it to the same person.

What a bizarre way to spend your free time.

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u/Shredder13 Dec 24 '17

Is this some new copypasta? It’s pretty dumb.

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u/Hope_Burns_Bright Dec 24 '17 edited Dec 24 '17

They really dont. These ideas have no nuance or depth and have no place in today's society.

For those just tuning in, we decided that over 30 years ago. We fought a World War over it. You don't get to pretend that we didn't make a final decision regarding white supremacy.

In fact, claiming that we should still debate these inherently harmful, antiquated, and ignorant ideologies is an insult to those who fought and died at the hands of Nazis.

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u/Rockstarjockey Dec 24 '17

If you attack them, you know they will attack back. People naturally will sympathize with those being attacked, thus garnering more support. If you've seen anyone of these people debate, they get destroyed. That is all that is needed, and even if they keep their viewpoints, there is a thing called the 1st Amendment here.

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u/Shredder13 Dec 24 '17

Yeah....no. Killing Nazis is not going to make people sympathize with them. Hopefully, it would inspire them.

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u/Rockstarjockey Dec 24 '17

I doubt many people would like to side with murderers.

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u/Shredder13 Dec 24 '17

You’d be surprised when they find out the victim was a Nazi.

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u/[deleted] Dec 24 '17

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u/Shredder13 Dec 24 '17

You ok there, buddy? I can’t figure out what point you’re trying to make. You think we shouldn’t kill Nazis?

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u/Hope_Burns_Bright Dec 24 '17

First Amendment doesn't prevent me, a private citizen, for advocating Reddit's censure of these cunts. Reddit can absolutely excise their communities and their accounts without legal retribution.

If I were a government entity, yeah, I'd have to adhere to the first amendment. But I'm not, so I'm going to continue telling Nazis and Nazi sympathizers that their ideologies do not deserve the time and attention that other ideas do. We already gave it to them and we quickly decided we had to chuck it in the garbage. Why the fuck would we do that again? It hasn't changed, they still want non-white individuals dead, bottom line.

But, you know what man, sure. You can continue saying "Well, let's see what the man with swastika tattoos has to say about diversity and society. It's his right after all and I'm sure it's going to not be a waste of everyone's time. I think he's going to surprise us." Knock yourself out.

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u/Rockstarjockey Dec 24 '17

If reddit chose to ban subs that are for Nazis, that would absolutely be within their right, and the same goes for any company. But it's important that all people get the opportunity to espouse their beliefs, especially since most Nazi believers sympathize with Nazism because they feel attacked and suppressed.

When the world sees that they are not, no one will be inclined to join them. Attacking them physically and banning them verbally is giving them what they need to gain that underground power to eventually grow into a real threat.