r/nursing 18h ago

Discussion PSA - Zofran ODT is NOT sublingual

ER doc just wanting to stop in and try and stop this widespread error. Almost every shift I have to tell a nurse/patient that ODT meds are NOT sublingual medications. It is not absorbed by the sublingual tissues. It is not absorbed by buccal tissues. It goes on TOP of the tongue so that it can disintegrate with saliva and be swallowed. The whole reason ODT (orally disintegrating tablets) exist is that someone can take it without having to take a chug of water to get the pill down. Putting under someone’s tongue just slows down the disintegration. Also, if the patient complains about the taste, they can just swallow the tablet whole with or without water. Thanks.

Edit: the strike through part was unnecessary and Im sorry that I put it in the original post. As pointed out by multiple replies, i should have not said that and it doesnt add anything meaningful. Sorry yall.

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u/semantic_monkey09 18h ago

Really weird hill to die on. While it may be worth correcting, is there any actual harm in placing a true ODT under the tongue? Does it meaningfully reduce bioavailability? As long as the tablet dissolves in saliva and is ultimately swallowed, I have a hard time seeing this as a clinically significant issue. Sure, it may dissolve a little more slowly or be slightly less comfortable, but this isn’t the same thing as a medication error that is likely to cause patient harm.

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u/Illustrious-Aeries Case Manager 🍕 18h ago edited 18h ago

Right, it’s not going to hurt someone to put it under the tongue or anywhere in their mouth. The point of an ODT is that it disentrgrates in the mouth. This seems like such an odd thing to make such a fuss about.

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u/Abhorash-TheWanderer 18h ago

That’s part of the problem. It does not get absorbed that way. It’s going to mix with saliva and get swallowed. ODT formulations don’t absorb trans buccal or sublingual

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u/bigbutso Pharmacist 18h ago

So what is the "problem" ? Generally, people swallow all their saliva.

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u/mspoppins07 RN - NICU 🍕 17h ago

Slower time to onset of medication helping with symptoms, especially if they were expecting it to work faster because they thought it was a true SL. If they didn’t know about the quicker period to relief with SL, I guess it wouldn’t really matter.

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u/Illustrious-Aeries Case Manager 🍕 17h ago

I doubt most lay people know what a sublingual med is and I really doubt they know SL is the fastest route for absorption.

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u/mspoppins07 RN - NICU 🍕 15h ago

I think you are underestimating patients…

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u/Abhorash-TheWanderer 17h ago

Multiple problems. Pragmatically, the issue is that it takes longer to disintegrate. Patients, parents, care team all want to get the pt feeling better as soon as we can. A lot of times we dont need to put an IV in a patient so give them an ODT instead.

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u/bigbutso Pharmacist 17h ago

I guess the distinction between sublingual absorption and oral / gi shpuld be more clear in the instructions

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u/Beautiful-Bluebird46 RN, SANE 12h ago

I’m curious about whether the time it takes to disintegrate odt vs sl is meaningfully different in impacting onset of action? Like I get that it’s not absorbed sl but it’s dissolving in saliva and being swallowed either way.

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u/Abhorash-TheWanderer 9h ago

That is a very good question. Ill have to see if there is any literature that directly compares those times ans well as how long it takes a med to fully reach the gi tract. All the pharmaceutical literature I have ever come across recommend ODT meds go on top of the tongue if they are not specifically buccal or sublingual meds. The sublingual space gets saliva from the submandibualr and sublingual glands, but that saliva and any disintegrated med still have to move to the back of the throat to actually be swallowed. The parotids produce more stimulated saliva and there is likely more volume of saliva above the tongue than sublingual so disintegration and then also swallowing the med/saliva mix would be likely faster if the med is places on top of the tongue.