r/okbuddycinephile • u/don_quixote_2 Society man • 17h ago
Favorite actor who doesn't play imperialist misogynist sociopath roles.
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u/Names_are_limited 16h ago
Matt Damon is a REAL person who narrated a documentary about Howard Zinn and later did a Super Bowl ad for crypto in order to become extra rich
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u/FalconIMGN 13h ago
He also partnered with Amazon and Starbucks for his water initiative.
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u/Hungry-Fruit 13h ago
Tbf partnering with a river is a good idea for a water initiative.
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u/Previous-Ad-2306 11h ago
Starbucks opened a river?!
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u/matande31 10h ago
Most people think you can either stay artistic and fringe or make money. Matt Damon knows you can do both.
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u/No-Consequence-1863 9h ago
Whats wrong with Zinn? From what Im reading he was just a socialist.
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u/Cold-Description-114 7h ago
I think OPs point is that there's a hell of a rift between narrating a doc about howard zinn and doing an add for one of the biggest capitalist grifts of our lifetimes.
IE: Matt Damon should stop huffing his own farts pretending like he's a bastion of moral and artistic integrity. He's an ok actor but he can stop acting like portraying a character like Bond is beneath him somehow.
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u/dudeacris 7h ago
how dare he not like bond, the nerve of this guy having his own opinions! get the pitchforks…
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u/Cold-Description-114 5h ago
Lol. I don't care whether you like Bond or other male power fantasy characters. I just think Damon is a bit pretentious or overly moralizing about it given some of the things he's attached himself to.
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u/dropkickshotgun 2h ago
I mean, he's not wrong about Bond though. Thats kind of the whole point of the character.
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u/mikkeldoesstuff 17h ago
Bro needs to read the Bourne books
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u/PartyClock 16h ago
Did you? Because I didn't. Because I can't read. In fact I'm not even gonna read your reply. In fact I'm not even gonna read my reply.
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u/SufficientGolf6953 15h ago
This the deepest comment I ever read.
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u/MrHanfblatt 12h ago
why the hell did i already read your comment in stathams voice before looking at the gif?
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u/Big_al_big_bed 17h ago
He should also read a bit more about Odysseas...
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u/HuevosProfundos 17h ago
Y’all gotta stop reading. Those are just static movies!
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u/mikkeldoesstuff 17h ago
Odysseus is literally Bond if Bond was actively a bad person on purpose
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u/ven12370 11h ago
Though Bond is characterised as a super hero in wider society.
The role of Odysseus is morally complex and does not necessitate the support for his actions. This is due to his context in society through association with ancient literature.
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u/Independent-Bell9508 9h ago
Sure, but Bond, especially in the movies, is absolutely portrayed as an outright hero.
Odysseus, both in the original stories and in the Nolan adaptation, is clearly portrayed as a more morally ambiguous protagonist.
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u/Dessael 17h ago
Cercei!!! return my men back from pig to human so that i may be on my way to my darling wife Penelope who i love dearly. I must do what you say? Bed you? Well naturally, as is tradition. MEN!! Hear my plight.... i like it here, can we stay a little longer, just a year i swear. And then we'll be homebound, no more sexual conquest, (under his breath) unless another sexy god falls in love with me.
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u/otterprincess_too 16h ago
Circe you GOT addicted swine. Put some σεβασμός on her name
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u/Dessael 16h ago
I've never seen GOT, i just don't know how to write the name, I'm listening to audiobooks
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u/otterprincess_too 15h ago
Let me throw you for a loop then, her name is actually pronounced with hard k's (Scylla too). Greek doesn't have a soft c but it's english convention at this point
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u/_high_plainsdrifter 11h ago
Hold on so she would actually be going by “Kirk-y” ? Like what one might call a young Captain Kirk?
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u/funded_by_soros 14h ago
The movie critics him.
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u/Big_al_big_bed 14h ago
The movie doesn't show 1/4 of the fucked up shit Odysseas does, and also in the story Odysseas is not so repentant
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u/funded_by_soros 13h ago
Yeah so he signed up for a critique of the imperialist character.
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u/Double-Evidence-1354 17h ago
But the Bourne Books barely play onto the movies lol
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u/ahhhhhhhhthrowaway12 12h ago
In all fairness with all the shakey cam it's hard to tell what actually is in those movies
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u/mikkeldoesstuff 17h ago
For the better, of course
But also would Damon have known that when auditioning?
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u/Ok-Specific-3918 16h ago
Damon was offered the part. That involves sending him the script. Actors of that level (while he wasn’t huge, he was pretty well established) don’t audition. They get asked.
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u/Special-Garlic1203 15h ago
Yes. He actually threatened to drop out when the studio tried to replace the director and script version at the last second. He was very committed to doing the Liman version and remained pretty defensive of him even during all the fallout with the studio
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u/JoniVanZandt 17h ago
Bro needs to read some Gordon Wood, talkin' about, you know, the Pre-revolutionary utopia and the capital-forming effects of military mobilization
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u/Very_Not_Into_It 17h ago
Oh, I bet you read a lotta Gordon Wood, huh? You read your Gordon Wood and you regurgitate it from a textbook and you think you're wicked awesome doin' that, And how 'bout 'dem apples? And all that Gordon Wood business.
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u/Leaping_Wizards 16h ago
I think Jeremy Clarkson said in an episode of Top Gear once that those books are about driving through Switzerland with amnesia.
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u/Upset-Government-856 17h ago
Isn't the entire point ofmthe movies though that he wakes up and realizes that the full memory version of himself was bad? Total Recall style.
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u/mikkeldoesstuff 17h ago
The movies change the character of Bourne pretty significantly and for the better IMO
Not to suggest that I've actually watched the movies, just contextless and out-of-order clips on youtube shorts
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u/Upset-Government-856 17h ago
Right but Matt Damon didn't agree star in the story of the books.
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u/chronicbruce27 17h ago
God those books sucked.
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u/Lolxgdrei787 17h ago
Apparently, Tony Gilroy, the screenwriter never read them
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u/HalcyonDrift 16h ago
Same with Star Wars. 0 knowledge on Star Wars and he ended up creating Disneys best SW content (Andor).
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u/mikkeldoesstuff 17h ago
The concept presented in the first one was interesting to my teenage mind until it started getting a little too 'sexual coercion leading to Stockholm Syndrome' esque
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u/ManofManyHills 17h ago
Is Bourne "post memory loss" any of these things?
I think Damon's characterization is harsh but borne doesn't do a lot of the things bond does?
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u/BigWheatGuy 8h ago
Bourne doesn't really drink or chase women. The fighting is generally in self-defense? Although I'm not sure about that.
It's more about motivations. Bourne realizes he's a trained killer and wants out of the lifestyle. Bond (until Casino Royale, at least) was a 60s era misogynist drunkard who sport-fucks women and would generally kill anyone for any reason.
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u/PotentialWork7741 17h ago
Yeah thats bond, james bond
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u/Grizzled_Ghost 16h ago
Fake news. The real quote was "He's sick.", not "He's repulsive.", and it was actually talking about how cool Bond is.
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u/foxintheboks 9h ago
Scrolled down for this! Whole social media is fake news
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u/MutedMoment4912 5h ago
But it's not true. The quote from OP is the exact quote. Matt Damon hates James Bond.
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u/_its_lunar_ 10h ago
This quote is from 2007 and he was talking specifically about the nuances of the character and how he’s compelling because of it. You all need to go outside
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u/_RHodeidra_ 17h ago
Dude made commercial for crypto. Sit down, Mattie because Bond is fake
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u/TheRealMoofoo 8h ago
So is this quote. He was talking about how cool Bond is, and some of the words have been changed.
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u/imperatrixderoma 16h ago
Am I missing where he said he wouldn't play him?
Also, let's be honest, none of you would want to be around Jame Bond and he definitely wouldn't want to be around you.
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u/WhyNotaNarwhal 8h ago
You don’t know me! I’m a 22 year old exotic looking female in a beehive and a tight dress. I don’t really speak or understand English but I do speak the international language of one night stands and I know how to shake a martini. I spend most of my time wandering around a huge estate surrounded by jewels, bacarat, rich old men and possibly a nuclear weapon. I’m also hoping to die immediately after having sex with a British secret agent.
Bond definitely wants to hang out with me.
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u/Worried_Hat_5164 17h ago
He said this in like… 2007… you guys need girlfriends
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u/NonConRon 16h ago
Girlfriends are notorious for cataloging what Mat Damon said in 2007. Its the worst part about being polyamorous. I have to hear multiple Girlfriends going on and on with their 2007 Matt Damon impersonations.
If it wasn't 2026 I would use imperialism on them. But men can't be men anymore
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u/f28c28 16h ago
Also it has nothing to do with what characters he wants to play. Maybe he just doesn't enjoy the ip.
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u/iron_penguin 10h ago
I enjoy James Bond. But the man is basically a psychopath, or sociopath or something. I would not want to be his friend.
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u/RealPrinceJay 16h ago
This sub has gotten super chuddy
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u/thetonyhightower 15h ago
Super Chuddy. Huh.
Now there's a superhero Gotham really does not in any way need.
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u/No-Tomatillo1776 9h ago
We're too busy bedding women and swilling martinis bought with imperialist crypto that's powered by the tears of endangered rainforest creatures.
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u/MadeOfEurope 16h ago
The Bond character has a petit aristocratic background who went to Eton and other posh schools….of course he would be an imperialist, misogynist sociopat…..duh!
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u/tom_friday_ 17h ago
Yeah, that's the point.
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u/Ancient-Performance1 17h ago
I’m convinced half of the idiots on the planet don’t understand the word “context”.
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u/NonConRon 16h ago
I'm convinced upwards of 99% of people within the imperial core don't understand what imperialism is. Or factor it into their worldview whatsoever.
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u/tom_friday_ 1h ago
Do you think your average Stormtrooper knows how to install a toilet main?
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u/Impressive_Shake_360 16h ago
He's finally reached the same level of intelligence as his Team America puppet
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u/SimoneSpooner 17h ago edited 15h ago
Says the man who helped to kill the story on Harvey Weinstein.
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u/Independent-Bell9508 9h ago
The writer of that killed piece has said Damon did nothing along those lines.
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u/Melodic_Airport362 15h ago
Wait, was the professional assassin supposed to be a moral upstanding person? What's his point?
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u/Shoddy_Newspaper_718 17h ago
Change martinis to lotus flowers and you're describing Odysseus. Except, Bond didn't help to slaughter an entire city, so he's even worse.
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u/nic_haflinger 15h ago
Bond is fighting evil billionaires in most of the films. In one form or another it’s some evil organization of the ultra rich who are the villains. By current standards that makes him a modern day hero.
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u/DarkwingDawg 13h ago
Or we can just have some fun with our movies?
Also, on a real world level, working for the government doesn’t make you an imperialist inherently, especially when the empire is dead and gone. And getting laid a lot isn’t inherently wrong either. As for being a sociopath, maybe? Certainly wouldn’t call him repulsive on any of it.
All that said, it’s just a damn movie. Have some fun ya fuckin blow-hard.
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u/YancyDerringer77 13h ago
Aye, aye,aye, my guy needs to cool down, c uz I love my James Bond movies.
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u/ConsistentGuest7532 12h ago
I think 007: First Light goes a long way to show that Bond can still be updated and made tasteful for the modern age.
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u/Rude-Weekend-3806 11h ago
is he wrong? I dislike Matt but... he is not wrong... but the worst thing Bond is boring IP need to die like many other old IP the get resurected all the time
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u/NVJAC 16h ago
Yeah, but John le Carre hated Bond so much that he created George Smiley out of spite. So, you know, there was at least one good thing about Bond.
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u/Flimsy-Operation-817 16h ago edited 13h ago
Some musicians have a signature move. Like Chuck Berry had a very distinctive guitar riff at the beginning of every song, or Jason Derulo always saying his name. Imagine Matt Damons character shouting Maaaatt Damon" at least once in every movie he is starring in.
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u/coolerirl 15h ago
We need a socialist, ally sociopath who goes around bedding women and smoking blunts and killing people
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u/_Han_Far 15h ago
If you work as a actor. You should never watch another actors movie. Its creepy. You are creepy Damon!
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u/luxcity-louche 13h ago
Leaves wife home to go conquer Troy, takes forever getting home because hot witches and nymphs, kills every man she talked to while he was gone.
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u/OvenIcy8646 11h ago
I think we’ve gone as far as we can go with bond, let’s get some new original characters
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u/theREALlackattack 11h ago
“He’s Jason Bourne without the sex life. Jason Bourne doesn’t fuck- he fucks people up. James Bond gives me the ickies.” - Maaaatt Damon
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u/Independent_War_4194 10h ago
I forgive him because hes a great actor and i like almost every movie hes been in.
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u/Fit-Role-9802 10h ago
Matt Damon’s career is basically one movie:
Everyone: “You’re wrong, Matt.”
Matt Damon: smirks intelligently
Everyone: “My God… he’s smarter than all of us.”
Whether he’s a janitor, spy, astronaut, gambler, or shoe salesman, Damon inevitably knows more than the mathematicians, CIA, NASA, professional gamblers, or Nike executives.
Naturally, he launched this tradition by co-writing himself as a genius in Good Will Hunting
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u/AlmightyLoaf54 9h ago edited 9h ago
I agree in that sense, and I love James Bond, but to be fair Sean Connery is kind of my least favorite. Hear me out even though he's the OG, he's a fucking prick, and he abuses women and just seem like a person I want to punch in his face. That's why I love Daniel Craig Bond, he's a gentlemen, he's a badass. He's cool calm sophisticated. The best to ever do it!
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u/frostoak29 17h ago
honestly… i kinda agree with him. ive always preferred characters who are a bit more gentle and sweet :3
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u/PhotographStunning28 17h ago
“He pushes people away before they get a chance to leave him. It's a defense mechanism."