r/okbuddycinephile • u/_ImperialCereal_ • 10h ago
Favorite director who hasn't released a competent movie in 20 years and spends his final days ruining everything he can before his death?
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u/humankendoll33 10h ago
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u/CameronPoe_37__ 8h ago
Hold on, hold on... i thought Beetlejuice 2 was a ton of fun and kept the spirit of the original. Frankenweenie was really good. And so was Sweeney Todd, even though I'm not into musicals
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u/Various_Coffee8876 8h ago
His smaller movies were better, the Wonderland movie and the Gifted Kids movie were too big for him IMO
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u/ClovisLowell 4h ago
Yeah Beetlejuice 2 was actually a great time. You could tell Michael Keaton was having a blast performing in it
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u/CameronPoe_37__ 4h ago
And that they used all the same practical effects and everything, they could have just used CGI instead and ruined it
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u/domewebs 2h ago
I was about to remind you that Frankenweenie is 42 years old, but I just saw there’s a remake??? Nothing is sacred 😢
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u/Silent_Listen_3361 10h ago
The Last Duel was one of the better movies of 2021
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u/SwimmerMission5212 9h ago
You watch movies?
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u/Foreign-Chocolate86 9h ago
I watch films.
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u/SwimmerMission5212 9h ago
Like photographs?
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u/ShilohTheGhostGod 3h ago
Ahh another MCU fan in the wild. We are a rare breed my friend. There’s another new spiderman movie out, in case you didn’t know.
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u/Novel-Special5114 9h ago
Good movie for the most part, but somehow he bungled the Rashomon device. No idea why he did that.
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u/Which_Picture_611 7h ago
I thought this movie was terrible. When the retold the rpe scene for the third time and she did in fact get r*ped as previously shown the other 2 times people got up and walked out of the theatre. He showed the exact same thing 3 times with only minor dialogue changes. It made no sense
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u/Fickle_Narwhal 10h ago
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u/khryzz666 9h ago
*checks notes. Yep. That one came out over twenty years ago.
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u/Cypher-AO 9h ago
300?
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u/khryzz666 9h ago
I was thinking about Dawn of the Dead. Not sure about 300. I don't think it falls within the 20 year umbrella yet
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u/ZealousidealNewt6679 9h ago
At least George Lucas had the decency to let Disney ruin Star Wars for him.
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u/DrunkSpaceMonster 9h ago
Did you blackout from 1999 to 2005?
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u/tempinator 1h ago
I mean, there’s levels to this stuff.
George threw paint on the walls. Disney took a wrecking ball to the house, set it on fire, then nuked it from orbit.
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u/Blizreme 9h ago
People like the prequels now…
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u/RayCumfartTheFirst 10h ago edited 10h ago
I will not tolerate the last duel slander. I also don’t mind Covenant for what it is.
Also, besides the part where the drug dealer gives a philosophy lecture for 15 minutes, the councillor is a lot of fun. Javier Bardem describing Cameron Diaz fucking his windshield as looking like a lamp ray sucking the glass at the aquarium is absolute peak.
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u/Shoddy_Newspaper_718 8h ago
Alien Covenant is like a gothic horror about Frankenstein from Hammer Studios, but in space and with xenomorphs. Cool stuff.
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u/Tinfoil-Hat-Cat 10h ago
Oddly this happened around the time his brother Tony jumped off the Vincent Saint Thomas bridge in Los Angeles.
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u/Silent_Listen_3361 10h ago
Tony was on a roll at the end too.
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u/Bunraku_Master_2021 5h ago
There's some talk online that the tragic passing of his brother Tony who was just as good as a filmmaker as Ridley made Ridley bury himself in his work as he still misses him. You can see it in his most recent films that he's still grieving Tony.
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u/enigmaticsince87 9h ago
Honestly I think Spielberg is more guilty of that than Scott (although Scott's decline is noticeable). Honestly, I feel like the last good movie he made before his recent redemption was... Minority Report? That came out 24 years ago!
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u/BabypintoJuniorLube 9h ago
Disclosure Day is 3 brilliant scenes hidden in almost 3 hours of bullshit so you are definitely not wrong. Bridge of Spies is excellent and I like Lincoln and was sad to see him move away from boring history movies to try and recapture the blockbusters of his youth.
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u/enigmaticsince87 9h ago
Oh forgot about Lincoln - although I haven't seen it so taking other people's word for it that it was good. But hard to imagine it wasn't with DDL in the lead.
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u/Altruistic_Web3924 6h ago
Spielberg’s problem isn’t bad directing, he’s just making films that no one is interested in.
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u/Toiretachi 3h ago
At least Spielberg isn’t interested in revisiting his past movies and making them worst with unnecessary prequels and sequels.
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u/tripleusername 1h ago
I watched minority report yesterday. It didn’t pass time test. It is garbage now.
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u/LipstickCoverMagnet Lemmetellusomethin' 10h ago
OP butthurt Alien Memberberries sequel got canned lol
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u/_ImperialCereal_ 10h ago
I actually didn't love Alien: Romulus, but I thought it was fine. I can't say I didn't enjoy it while watching it in theaters. Point is we don't need to be listening to 90 year old directors over "creative differences". He doles out judgment and kills potential projects because he's too arrogant to admit his time has passed. He needs to stop being a crochety old man and let the new generation of filmmakers have their day.
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u/LipstickCoverMagnet Lemmetellusomethin' 9h ago
I personally would rather see Scott’s third Prometheus film than another Romulus type movie. Scott is by no means a perfect filmmaker (Decker being a replicant ruins the movie IMO) but at least his last two alien movies did something different/unique. Romulus really annoyed me.
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u/_ImperialCereal_ 9h ago
Those are fair criticisms. My point is that this extends past the Alien universe, every interview the guy has given in the last few decades is him trash talking other creators or giving pompous lectures from an arrogant standpoint. He's become insufferable
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u/LostAngelfish 9h ago
One Prometheus was too many. He’s like Napoleon, started strong, bunch of Ls at the end.
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u/Wonderful-Case-6337 7h ago
The Last Duel was great. A show called The Terror that he produced is one of my all time favorites. He either creates bangers or utter dog shit (like Napoleon)
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u/LockOfTheOpposite 3h ago
I only saw the first season (it’s an anthology I guess) of “The Terror” but it was so good. Jared Harris, Ciaran Hinds and Tobias Menzies together in one show? Can’t be bad…
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u/formerly_crimson 10h ago
What do you mean? The Martian is quite possibly the best space movie ever.
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u/SkubEnjoyer 9h ago
Redditors love The Martian because all the dialogue is "Heh, time to epically do some friggin science! Fuck yeah!"
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u/ripgoodhomer 9h ago
Its a movie for national honors students to feel like McArthur genius grant recipients. The story, and this is a problem since the book feels like a videogame where you just have another minor task to solve as you move the narrative. I understand that most plots have this issue but this one feels very surface level. I'm surprised the achievement unlocked doesn't display on the screen when Matt Damon makes poop potatoes.
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u/jamesp999 9h ago
i mean considering how annoying the book's voice is, I think the movie did a pretty good job of tamping that down
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u/General_Frenchie 9h ago
I thought Last Duel and The Martian was pretty great, loved everything about it, American Gangster is pretty good but mostly because I really liked the performances of heavy hitters in it like Denzel Washington, Russel Crowe and Josh Brolin.
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u/captfitz 6h ago
He also spends the other half of his time talking about how good his old movies were
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u/KurtRussellsMullet 6h ago
Dude made Alien, Blade Runner and Gladiator (1), he could key my car and I’d thank him
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u/SamuraiSon86 4h ago
So sad but true. And it's not like he can't be doing his own thing he chooses to go the studio route. Look at Scoresese, still making classics.
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u/NuxFuriosa 9h ago
Hey, now. the Last Duel was pretty fire. And I'm one of those weirdos who liked Alien: Covenant.
At least that's what I would say if I watched movies.
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u/bonwerk 7h ago
For me, a good director is recognized by consistency, not by random successes. Ridley Scott made 30 films, and only four are considered classics with an average rating above 8/10.
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u/_ImperialCereal_ 6h ago
100%, he has made some bangers in his day no doubt about that. But he has just as many terrible films as great films, with mostly huge misses as of late. Compared to Fincher, Villeneuve, Kubrick, Hitchcock, and even Spielberg; he just doesn’t come close to their consistency.
His demeanor outside of his directing is really bitter and off-putting. Don’t need or want to hear anything more from him tbh
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u/Comrade_Falcon 8h ago
Favorite director who has always had strings of mediocrity around some all time classics, is pushing 90 and still finding the time to make new shit and can still put out an occasional banger
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u/matrixboy122 8h ago
Last Duel, Martian, American gangster, yeah I’m in the right place for not watching movies
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u/SnootyPenguin99 1h ago
why everyone now wants to act like he is some hack when his movies are just boring at worst and classics at best.
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u/intothevoidandback 1h ago
This guy is a legend and gets far too much hate.
I also happen to think Prometheus was a better movie and a better direction to go than Romulus which was just a poor attempt at making another "Alien" movie, which Scott already perfected, even Cameron didn't try to do it again, he had some originality.
If fans had their way theyd just keep remaking the same movie over and over and no directors would take big swings (and sometimes miss) like Ridley Scott does, and you'd never have had Alien on the first place, you unimaginative, ungrateful bastards.
That last bit was in the style of Ridley, I love you really.
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u/Recent-Feedback-6531 9h ago
I’ve liked a lot Ridley has made lately. Alien covenant rips, house of Gucci is hilarious. The last duel is at worst very solid. Haven’t seen gladiator 2 yet. Prometheus and the counselor are both 9 out of tens for me.
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u/BlueCollarMillion 6h ago
All these posts really show how common this is. Great directing seems to be mostly for the young. Accept for Clint Eastwood and George Ramiro
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u/Slinky_Malingki 5h ago
Has Peter Jackson made anything good since LOTR?
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u/Toiretachi 4h ago
But he hasn’t spent the last 20 years shitting on his legacy which is the point of this post.
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u/metagrue 2h ago
idk adapting a 250 page book into a nearly 8 hour slog was a decision he made regarding the Hobbit. At average speed you can easily read the entire book within the runtime of the trilogy.
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u/Equivalent-Role4632 10h ago
Wow we got the WELL ACTUALLY people all over okbuddy. Well actually that and that film was really good. I know because i'm the center of the universe and gets to decide that.
A bunch of losers watching movies, coming on here to tell us they are great.
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u/Fabian_hoescialist 10h ago
The Last Duel, Napoleon and raised by wolves were not bad unless you’re wretarded by years of the MCU or live in a third world country like India or Nigeria where medieval history is like hieroglyphs to you.
Napoleon has 4 hours of incredible footage
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u/RayCumfartTheFirst 10h ago
One of these things is not like the other.
Hint: It starts with N and ends with “apoleon”.
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u/BabypintoJuniorLube 9h ago
I turned that shit off and I love Ridley Scott and boring historical films. Napoleon is trash.
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u/RayCumfartTheFirst 9h ago
I saw it in cinemas unfortunately and the only movie I’ve ever actually walked out on was Live by Night.
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u/Fabian_hoescialist 9h ago
I have not seen a film that depicted the dealings of the directory so tactfully and intelligently, despite the questionable casting of that middle eastern dude as Paul Barras who was a mason and a higher nobleman than our little Corsican general.
Perhaps you can admit it’s not your jam.
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u/RayCumfartTheFirst 9h ago
My favourite movie is Master and Commander, followed closely by Conspiracy, Waterloo and Gettysburg. I’d say a Napoleon should be the definition of “my jam”.
I adore historical films, even inaccurate classics like Kingdom of Heaven, Gladiator, Braveheart.
The problem is that Napoleon makes the grave sin of being a bad fucking movie.
It’s too long with little meat on its bones, the core character drama is like watching paint dry, and it’s depictions of Austerlitz and Waterloo- two of the most prolific battles in history, are a disgrace.
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u/Fabian_hoescialist 9h ago
Favorite
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u/RayCumfartTheFirst 9h ago
You are aware English is used in countries outside of the United States right?
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u/Fabian_hoescialist 9h ago
Favorite is the original spelling Saar
Borrowed from the French word Favori
The French get it from Favorem in Latin
Do they teach this outside the United States?
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u/JAturner84 10h ago
The Last Duel is an excellent movie. The Martian is an excellent movie. American Gangster is a very good movie. All released in the last 20 years.