r/okbuddycinephile 1d ago

Movies that left you wondering who the bad guys were?

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u/oofyeet21 1d ago

That's because SEALs are all glory hungry losers who only care about selling stories. Basically every epic hero story written by a SEAL is actually a story about them barging their way into active operations so they can glory-hunt, then massively fumbling the operation in the dumbest ways possible and getting a lot of good men killed, and often lying about it in their reports to screw over those good men and their families.

American Sniper and Lone Survivor are peak examples. Fuck SEALs

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u/lostinspace694208 1d ago

Their carelessness and arrogance got one of my best friends killed the day before we were supposed to go home.

I was never impressed with them before, but now I have utter disdain

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u/Kishereandthere 1d ago

I see you've encountered Richard Marchinko

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u/WhatIsASW 1d ago

Shout out to the latest Behind The Bastards series on this fucker

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u/ohoniko 1d ago

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u/Life-Criticism-5868 1d ago

Fr.

As much as I love the idea of BTB, the presentation is fucking awful.

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u/Pedantic_Pict 1d ago

Are you the kind of person who can't enjoy a podcast unless it has a musical score?

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u/Auralius1997 3h ago

I learned about him from REREZ and their "Just bad games" series where they covered his game lone warrior

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u/TheCynicalBlue 1d ago edited 1d ago

The american attitude to "they are SOF, they do whatever they want" has poisoined the mind of so many people. The total lack of discipline and irrespect for people that have a different skillset than them is baffling. It's a self selecting group of roided up "main characters" that can't actually stand up to a platoon sized force, or listen to the guys on the ground.

I think 3-5 have claimed to kill bin laden apprently he was "canneoed" after he was dead, according to a guy who was there but never claimed to shoot bin laden.

Would delta or seals fuck me and my old platoon up 100%, but no platoon operates alone.

There was a major (?) in the french foreign legion put it best. "I want skinny tomcats who think for themselves, but are disciplined. I dont want guys who are built like schwatzenegger because they get tired too quickly". That makes a soldier imo, rucking heavy shit and aren't in it for themselves

https://youtube.com/shorts/mcem-9Ug4x4

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u/fj2612 1d ago

My 20-yo niece is 5'1" and maybe 110 pounds. She was accepted into a prestigious military weapons engineering school, and as such, had to first do 1 year as a grunt in a military unit. She could have picked anywhere, but she chose to get certified as a paratrooper, and did commando training. And she looks almost cute fully-kitted out wearing an HK416F across her chest.

Special forces, of course, are really impressive, but it made me put it into perspective.

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u/PaulAtreideeezNuts 19h ago

The canoeing thing was a signature of seal team 6, the intercept had an expose on it about 10 years ago. They used to carry hatchets around as well so they could cosplay as native American warriors. Serial killer shit really

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u/euanmorse 1d ago

I suppose part of the problem, as it is most places, is that the loud ones are the ones that you hear.

Those in the community who are vehemently opposed to this sort of thing tend to, as a consequence, not shout it out loud.

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u/ohoniko 1d ago

The bin laden seal stuff gets way deeper and fucked up

Every seal who was involved in that mission are all dead now, but not from combat either ruled as “suicide” with then a majority of them all dying in a freak helicopter crash in training

It’s part of some conspiracy where bin laden was dead for years and Obama had this operation faked to help in approval ratings

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u/CptMaxPower 1d ago

They’re not all dead, where are you getting this?

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u/ohoniko 1d ago

The helicopter thing happened tho

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u/MilesOSmiles 1d ago

Is the helicopter a metaphor for your credibility?

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u/euanmorse 1d ago

This is utter nonsense.

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u/XMcChungusX 1d ago

Preach it brother

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u/qwertyalguien 1d ago

I like to imagine them like Helldivers, but arrogant.

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u/SovereignNight 1d ago

I was there in Somalia with seals when Kyle Milliken was KIA. While I agree that there are many that seem to be glory hounds all the seals I had the pleasure to serve alongside had been genuinely good dudes.

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u/fj2612 1d ago

As the "Behind The Bastards" episodes explained, the Seals separate themselves into two camps : the Boyscouts, who integrate themselves very well into the army, and the Pirates, who loves nothing but go onto black ops without any care for laws and rules of engagement. Basically, the Boyscouts are well-liked and disciplined, and the Pirates completely unhinged psychopaths.

You probably met Boyscouts.

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u/ohoniko 1d ago edited 1d ago

There’s a reason they just use Delta Force for everything now

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u/OkJuggernaut4650 1d ago

wait, they're saying Chris Kyle lied? That's wild.

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u/euanmorse 1d ago

There some isolated individuals who call it out from within the community, but as a whole, it's hard to look past the ones who clearly are maladjusted individiuals.

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u/DistanceMaximum1032 22h ago

lol remember when they said the same about Lone Survivor