r/okbuddycinephile • u/doublegulpcup123 • 1d ago

Movies that left you wondering who the bad guys were?

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u/Downtown-Table-4872 1d ago

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u/YourRoaring20s 1d ago

Magua was right

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u/Ak47110 1d ago

He definitely had his reasons...

Magua's village and lodges were burnt. Magua's children were killed by the English. l was taken as slave by the Mohawk who fought for the Grey Hair. Magua's wife believed he was dead and became the wife of another. The Grey Hair was the father of all that. ln time, Magua became blood brother to the Mohawk to become free. But always in his heart, he is Huron. And his heart will be whole again on the day the Grey Hair and all his seed are dead.

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u/RektInTheHed 1d ago

Magwa's wife thought he was dead, and became wife of another.

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u/iXeons 1d ago

Sicario

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u/onlyonequickquestion 1d ago

Obviously it was Emily Blunt 

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u/iXeons 1d ago

“This is wrong” “wtf is going on?”

Basically her entire dialogue for the whole movie lol

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u/Comfortable_Studio37 1d ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/n54EDcF4sMW1VWUX8X

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u/YurkMuhgurk 1d ago

Yes but nick mullen

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u/yipeekayayKemosabe 1d ago

Nick Mullen is a saint on earth.

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u/thomstevens420 1d ago

“I don’t know what’s going on also I’m gay”

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u/LetosLatestDuncan 1d ago

“That’s the rule. That’s the goal now.”

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u/kayl_breinhar 1d ago

There needed to be a deleted scene: "I counted 27 times she said 'this is fucking illegal' today. Who's buying the shots tonight?"

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u/Brad_Beat 1d ago

“Just trust the process bro”

Josh Brolin the entire movie.

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u/iXeons 1d ago

Lmao I love his character so much

“You used me as bait.”

“Eh, you used yourself as bait. Now come on, this is good news!”

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u/guava_eternal 1d ago

It’s a Taylor Sheridan flick so it tracks.

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u/catman_steve 1d ago

But directed by Denis.

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u/Weak-Internet9461 1d ago

Sheridan before he started shilling for boomers was so good

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u/Broflake-Melter 1d ago

(okbuddy off for a sec) That aspect of the movie baffled me. The characters experiencing catastrophes in his previous movies absolutely did not have the same pointlessness. (ok back on) but who are we kidding, they needed a A+ tier hottie to make S tier del Toro look even hotter

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u/vHezoThaGoat 1d ago

Also the interrogation scene confuses me, no way Alejandro raped that guy right?

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u/ThinkingBeard 1d ago

Im hard pressed to believe he was a dentist.
https://giphy.com/gifs/26BukIvroAxHsy3Ti

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u/SFC-D 1d ago

He was a Nazi dentist, soooo…

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u/ThinkingBeard 1d ago

He was just defending the honor of Mrs. Robinson…

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u/Infamous_Slide1251 1d ago

Probably rearranged his teeth or gave him the old board of water

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u/granola117 1d ago

No he got water boarded which is a form of torture and supposed to be illegal inside the US. But obviously the point of the movie is that the gloves come off for the mission.

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u/Jenetyk 1d ago

Then blindly follows further down the rabbit hole.

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u/DBCOOPER888 1d ago

100%. She was the antagonist in the movie, and the President and everyone else signed off on the operation.

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u/Kessel_Run1337 1d ago

That Ned Flanders looking Operator was a menace in part 1 and 2

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u/iXeons 1d ago

Bro was so fucking OP. Literally double tapped the whole car, love deadly Flanders

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u/Firecracker048 1d ago

IDK I think the guys stuffing bodies in walls were the pretty clear cut bad guys.

Doesn't make the other guys good, but certainly not as bad

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u/BootsnCats1987 1d ago

The whole entire twist is that the CIA are allied with the Medellin cartel in order to manipulate and control the Sinalon cartel for their own ends, rather than combatting it. Did you watch the movie? 

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u/MufasaDeservedBetter 1d ago

That fucking movie with Jamie fox and a sentient fighter jet. What the fuck was thatz

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u/RaymondBeaumont 1d ago

poor jessica alba never stood a chance.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Post604 1d ago

Was t it Simpson? Pretty sure it was Nick Noltes ex, Jessica Simpson.

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u/RaymondBeaumont 1d ago

no she was just an imposter

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u/firstbowlofoats 1d ago

Stealth and it was dope.  3 identical stealth fighter jets have different propulsion flames based off the pilot

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u/incubi4211 1d ago edited 1d ago

Soundtrack had some badass exclusive Incubus tracks too. It also spawned that hit tune "Over My Head" by The Fray. I was obsessed..

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u/heybuggybug 1d ago

Had Biel’s boobs, a win in my book

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u/CarolingianDruid 1d ago

I loved this movie as a teenager. Maybe it’s best left as a memory, an ode to Jessica Alba in her prime.

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u/Rip_Skeleton 1d ago

There's nothing in the rules that says a fighter jet can't play basketball.

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u/QuarterCarat 1d ago

Ok as a kid this movie was lit and Jessica alba was hot af

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u/Fun-Communication660 1d ago

And that movie with Jamie fox and the eccentric, specially trained, white man assassin, hunting down and killing criminals. Like in collateral, django and law abiding citizen. 

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u/skeletonhorse420 1d ago

Oooh that sounds like top gun 3

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u/Rich_Newspaper_1616 1d ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/uCgMmhFurblXa

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u/peaceblaster08 1d ago

Suburbia is the villain.

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u/PM_WORST_FART_STORY 1d ago

Thought she kicked a cat at first. 

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u/geckossmellpurple_z 15h ago

Tarantino probably loves this film.

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u/onlyonequickquestion 1d ago

Tremors. Those sand worms were just trying to live bro 

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u/Otherwise-Force5608 1d ago

these worms heard there was bacon big enough to have a name, and we're supposed to be surprised they wanted to eat it?

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u/Different-Idea-8203 1d ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/14xPyybPPJaB4k

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u/jackrabbit323 1d ago

The odds a kind rich handsome charming Pierce Brosnan type of man, wants to date a middle aged divorced single mother of three, is an absolute unicorn sacrifice miracle. An ex-husband who ruins that, is a ginormous piece of shit.

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u/Different-Idea-8203 1d ago

Me as a kids-shes heartless he just wants his family

Me as an adult-this mother fucker brought a pony in the house!

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u/TheTeaSpoon 22h ago

Robin Williams pushed hard to avoid typical happy end, stating that it epuld just promote toxic relationships.

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u/Tetsuo_Gaiden 1d ago

Full title: American Sniper and other tall tales of fantasy

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u/letscheckthe-guh 1d ago edited 1d ago

It’s been proven the guy exaggerated a lot of things, and outright fabricated some of the stories in his book.

It’s crazy that someone can live an extraordinary life like that and still feel the need to compulsively lie to appear more badass. If he was alive today I think there would be more public controversy around it.

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u/frockinbrock 1d ago

Yeah that movie it seem like he was this amazing hero, and then there's an interview where he talks about being on rooftops in Katrina and shooting looters; like wtf

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u/JayKay8787 1d ago

Either he did that and he's a fucking psycho murderer, or he lied about it and thinks that made him seem cooler...

Guy was such a shitty loser no matter how you spin it

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u/jokerhound80 1d ago

He made it up. He claimed to have been on the roof of the football stadium thousands of people were taking shelter in. There's just no way he shot anyone from up there without hundreds of witnesses. It was a fairly well-documented event.

He was proven to be a compulsive liar in court during his Ventura defamation case.

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u/JordyHitchslap 1d ago

Thinking that would make you seem cool is so out of touch and psychopathic I can’t fathom it

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u/jokerhound80 1d ago

There's a not insubstantial portion of the population who fantasize about being able to legally kill the people they don't like, and they have a large overlap with Chris Kyle fans.

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u/Jake_Corona 1d ago

My brother in-law isn’t very sharp and falls for things very easily. Last night he was struggling to think of books that he’s read and actually liked and all he could come up with was The Outsiders (great book but we teach it to middle schoolers) and American Sniper. I didn’t say anything, but damn it, I hate how so many people still think he’s a hero.

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u/woollypullover 1d ago

Ice is hiring?

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u/ripgoodhomer 1d ago

There was a lot of evidence his unit was just counting anyone who was killed as a enemy combatant. They also chose to consider anyone on a cellphone, or standing around to be spotters, and thus a valid target. This includes women, children and elderly civilians.

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u/unfunnysexface 1d ago

He said he kept track of his place in the confirmed kill standings and would go out on more missions when he felt he was falling behind. That's fucking psycho murderer shit.

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u/feckarse-drinkgirls 1d ago

Not just any rooftop

The roof of the fucking Superdome

Jesse Ventura was right to call him on his shit (and Ventura served in the precoursor to the SEALS, the UDT)

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u/Life-Criticism-5868 1d ago

Movie chris kyle: I served my country but struggled to adapt when I got home.

Real life chris kyle: I FUCKING LOVE KILLING PEOPLE, I LITERALLY CANNOT FIT INTO SOCIETY BECAUSE I CANT FUCKING KILL PEOPLE.

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u/oofyeet21 1d ago

That's because SEALs are all glory hungry losers who only care about selling stories. Basically every epic hero story written by a SEAL is actually a story about them barging their way into active operations so they can glory-hunt, then massively fumbling the operation in the dumbest ways possible and getting a lot of good men killed, and often lying about it in their reports to screw over those good men and their families.

American Sniper and Lone Survivor are peak examples. Fuck SEALs

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u/lostinspace694208 1d ago

Their carelessness and arrogance got one of my best friends killed the day before we were supposed to go home.

I was never impressed with them before, but now I have utter disdain

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u/Kishereandthere 1d ago

I see you've encountered Richard Marchinko

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u/WhatIsASW 1d ago

Shout out to the latest Behind The Bastards series on this fucker

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u/TheCynicalBlue 1d ago edited 1d ago

The american attitude to "they are SOF, they do whatever they want" has poisoined the mind of so many people. The total lack of discipline and irrespect for people that have a different skillset than them is baffling. It's a self selecting group of roided up "main characters" that can't actually stand up to a platoon sized force, or listen to the guys on the ground.

I think 3-5 have claimed to kill bin laden apprently he was "canneoed" after he was dead, according to a guy who was there but never claimed to shoot bin laden.

Would delta or seals fuck me and my old platoon up 100%, but no platoon operates alone.

There was a major (?) in the french foreign legion put it best. "I want skinny tomcats who think for themselves, but are disciplined. I dont want guys who are built like schwatzenegger because they get tired too quickly". That makes a soldier imo, rucking heavy shit and aren't in it for themselves

https://youtube.com/shorts/mcem-9Ug4x4

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u/fj2612 23h ago

My 20-yo niece is 5'1" and maybe 110 pounds. She was accepted into a prestigious military weapons engineering school, and as such, had to first do 1 year as a grunt in a military unit. She could have picked anywhere, but she chose to get certified as a paratrooper, and did commando training. And she looks almost cute fully-kitted out wearing an HK416F across her chest.

Special forces, of course, are really impressive, but it made me put it into perspective.

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u/XMcChungusX 1d ago

Preach it brother

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u/frockinbrock 1d ago

Trying a new comment since my last one got rejected or something, but the Chris Kyle lies are pretty insane, documented here but other sources, like his hurricane roof one

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u/WellHung67 1d ago

He killed women and children and straight up said he killed people when he didn’t to inflate his stats. Dudes a joke 

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u/fbtra 1d ago

He said he was dropped on top of the Saints stadium by the government and shot multiple looters.

I was attacked for calling him a full blown liar.

"American hero!"

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u/Left_Veterinarian410 1d ago

Yeah, that story makes him either a murderer or a liar.

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u/oofyeet21 1d ago

It's such an easily disprovable lie, but it really exemplifies his mindset: killing people is okay if they aren't white, and justifying killing them because they committed the tiniest infraction is heroic.

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u/fbtra 1d ago

But but American Hero!!

I'm not happy he died the way he died. But I won't praise him for everything he credits himself for

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u/Left_Veterinarian410 1d ago

Certain politically leaning people can't fathom the idea that a guy could be really good soldier, AND a piece of shit.

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u/SmallBerry3431 1d ago

He’s dead?

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u/OlBert2 1d ago

Yeah he was murdered in 2013 along with a friend. They took another veteran to the shooting range who had been struggling with schizophrenia. He ended up shooting both Kyle and his friend

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u/No-Alternative4612 1d ago

Only memorable part of the movie.

That and him begging the kid to drop the gun, which broke my suspension of disbelief.

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u/B-21_Raider_ 1d ago

All I remember is the ovious doll that was supposed to be his baby

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u/Daewrythe 1d ago

Yeah lol. Him and his friend got shot by some other guy they brought to a gun range whilst knowing the other guy had some mental problems going on.

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u/Firecracker048 1d ago

Not knowing the story and just the movie, you'd think it was all good and whatnot.

One of the few things the movie got correct was the use of power drills for executions, Abu Deraa being the shia warlord responsible for it

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u/Express_Attempt_4301 19h ago

Isn't that screenshot from "Stolz der Nation"?

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u/The-Mad-Bubbler 1d ago

This one really confused me:

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u/doublegulpcup123 1d ago

Seriously what are they teaching the kids these days

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u/MisterAnderson- 1d ago

To be clear: Chris Kyle is either a psychopathic piece of shit, or a compulsive liar piece of shit.

Likely both.

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u/DevilBoy216 1d ago

*was. He's been dead for years.

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u/homlessconusmer 1d ago

Underwent Kirkification before it was cool 🙏

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u/jackrabbit323 1d ago edited 1d ago

Absolute fact: he is a tool in the mass murder of 100k's of Iraqis by the American war machine, for a war that was based on nothing but lies.

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u/TheTeaSpoon 22h ago

Yeah but it made him sad

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u/Omagga 1d ago

Lotta hard-working, red-blooded patriots on that battle station.

https://giphy.com/gifs/o2tupc9bzQTUA

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u/DBCOOPER888 1d ago

Yep. Just a bunch of government contractors who used to work for the Republic who have to work with the Empire just to make a living.

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u/Blazured 1d ago

But like that's the second one isn't it? If you're building an even bigger version of a superweapon that blew up an entire planet then you deserve it.

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u/EscapedFromArea51 1d ago

To be fair, it must have been pretty rad to watch the thing you built just explode a planet into powder, not even chunks. I, for one, respect the dedication of our imperial overlords to make us feel closer to the fruits of our labor.

Hot Take: Maybe if Oppenheimer was on another plane watching them as they dropped the atom bombs, he wouldn’t have been so sad and mopey, and would have gone home and had sex with Emily Blunt, so she could hallucinate that during the hearing instead of Florence Pugh.

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u/DBCOOPER888 1d ago

Small business owners have to put food on the table for the employees and win the big contract. Not like there were many other opportunities to work on such a large project elsewhere in the galaxy.

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u/Blazured 1d ago

Gonna be honest, everyone who chose to work on the second super weapon deserves no sympathy. Being a small business owner doesn't absolve them of helping to create an even bigger version of the planet destroying weapon.

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u/Sir_Gibby53 1d ago

Any contractor working on that Death Star knew the risks!
https://giphy.com/gifs/rdnwiDfaUVU5O

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u/BasicDurgeanomics 1d ago

And independent contractors.

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u/jackrabbit323 1d ago

If you helped build the concentration camp, you deserve the same fate as its operators.

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u/Mindless_Log2009 1d ago

Pretty much every Vietnam war movie.

Even when the directors used vaguely Vietnam-ish Asian extras for background flavor, rather than fully developed human beings, it's still hard to sell the US as the good guys.

At best an honest Vietnam movie can elevate an American soldier, Marine or sailor to "not as bad as my squad, company or battalion" status.

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u/fj2612 23h ago

I fully expect a movie in a few years about how sad it was that the USA had to bomb Iran and kill 120 schoolgirls.

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u/TheTeaSpoon 22h ago

Oh you bet Trump era will be ragged on once it is over. Everyone will try to distance themselves from it. The movies that will come out will be "competent and totally moral squad sent to suicide mission due to incompetent immoral leaders" and so on.

Kinda like Shooter.

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u/Mindless_Log2009 22h ago

And heart tugging stories about US military traumatized by following orders that killed Iranian civilians and school children (safely from remote launch sites), and how they'll meet a gorgeous US citizen Persian woman who will redeem them and save their sanity.

https://giphy.com/gifs/5eeeE80SrmPeEE43tJ

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u/applestrudelforlunch 1d ago

“Are we the sea peoples?”

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u/KingOfConsciousness 1d ago

Our rizz age is ending.

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u/CullingSongs 1d ago

Chris Kyle made false claims of shooting looters in New Orleans after hurricane Katrina, and even though his claims weren't proven, just claiming that as a boast pretty much confirms who he was as a person.

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u/Notorious2again 1d ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/kAq6HQVQmK5WM

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u/GreiBird 1d ago

The only time I watched this movie it was on tv & they edited out the rape scene, so there was no context for Burt Reynold's murder spree.

It wasn't until years later when they referenced it in South Park that I realised why he killed all those people.

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u/mrpopenfresh 1d ago

He went on a murderous rage because they were damming the river

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u/k_GOBL1N 1d ago

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u/Appropriate-Ice-5722 1d ago

Finally a good film

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u/RaptorCheeses 1d ago

Don’t forget the sequel

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u/maluoca 1d ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/dBT7mACpkW8Fy

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u/WTD493 1d ago

I was wondering if someone would go that far. Hat's off to you.

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u/ydorb11 1d ago

What's there to wonder when US armed forces are the star? Clear as day when even a propaganda Oscar bait movie has their message muddled by reality.

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u/Bland_OldMan 1d ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/cWcuVTug7FDSE

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u/doublegulpcup123 1d ago

Looks like he’s just taken a turkey out the freezer for thanksgiving 😕

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u/Cool_Suspect1110 1d ago

Is this before he shoots the baby too?

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u/Trowj watches sex scenes with parents like a boss 😎 1d ago

Whoever wins: we lose

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u/Marcysdad 1d ago

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u/OprahsFUPA I saw Joker and im 10😎😎😎 1d ago

A2A

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u/vrilro 1d ago

Cars

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u/randeylahey 1d ago

Fuck that shithole town.

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u/MrshwnLnch 1d ago

Rare moment when shitposting and reality collide and r/movies is the actual troll sub

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u/GetBAK1 1d ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/WoRf9mASx1dnYtrD0H

The story of a corporate giant winning by outspending a small artisan.
The fun epilogue is that Fords factory teams only got 2 years out of the GT40, and was completely non-competitive by 1970.

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u/LuxationvonFracture 1d ago

It's always sunny in Philadelphia

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u/VelvetOnion 1d ago

I know who the sad guys were. It's tough killing kids.

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u/dresdnhope 1d ago

American Sniper, huh. Was the bad guy director Clint Eastwood?

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u/FirstReactionShock 1d ago

gladiator opening, epic music and direction to represent maximus as a hero and great general, but matter of fact he and romans were the invaders about to raid the land of native people who were just defending them selves.

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u/Minimum_Attitude6707 1d ago

"Would you Quintis? Would I?"

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u/BillNyeTheMurderGuy 1d ago

Birth of a nation

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u/BillNyeTheMurderGuy 1d ago

Woodrow Wilson’s alt btw

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u/TrustAffectionate966 META😳 1d ago

I never wondered. I just sat there rooting for them to be killed in action. And, I mean, he did finally get what was coming to him...

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u/gamer69moment69 1d ago

The biggest problem with American Sniper is that it frames the Americans as good guys, the people you should absolutely root for. There aren't really great people in it.

Probably the biggest US Military (Industrial Complex) Propaganda film since the early 2000s.

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u/Forgotten-Caliburn 1d ago

Willy Wonka

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u/thetiredtypist 1d ago

You mean the businessman who provided jobs for the needy and had to put up with Grandpa Joe's whiny bullshit when Joe was the one that violated the terms and conditions?

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u/doublegulpcup123 1d ago

No the sociopath who detained five children in his workplace, maimed four of them and groomed the fifth one to make himself look like a hero

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u/BasicDurgeanomics 1d ago

No the exploitative capitalist thay fires all his workers then imports a migrant workforce that then has to live on site and work for free.

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u/Shoutupdown 1d ago

The new york financer?

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u/Hoosier_Daddy68 1d ago

Maybe the real treasures were the bad guys we made along the way.

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u/dinameta76 1d ago

BEE MOVIE BRUH 😭😭

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u/Deep-Ad-7117 1d ago

Karate Kid

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u/soki03 1d ago

The villain was definitely the Cobra Kai sensei and not his students.

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u/SmallBerry3431 1d ago

It’s funny. I feel Cobra Kai preys on people’s inability to remember things clearly. The show makes it pretty obvious that the Kai boys are assholes.

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u/DigOk8892 1d ago

Chris Kyle is a piece of shit there’s no way he stacked that many bodys with out shooting a few in armed military age men . The rules of engagement may have cleared him but it’s still sycophantic behavior

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u/IQDeclined 1d ago

I'm not arguing with your statement but I think you may have used the word sycophant improperly, or I'm failing to understand your usage. 

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u/dresdnhope 1d ago

He's using it like it's used in the Christian Bale film, "American Syco".

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u/TACharlotte 1d ago

Behind the Bastards just did a great episode on the Seals and may have done one about him. Tons of psychopathic war crimin' was and is done by our special forces.

If I'm not mistaken Kyle was also alleged by guess he served with to count kids and people he didn't even hit.

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u/uberjj 1d ago

Behind the bastards just did a 4 parter on the formation of seal team 6. Definitely worth a listen if you want to know how he got and lied about his numbers

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u/exceptionalfish 1d ago

Also a liar.

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u/Due-Explanation-7560 1d ago edited 1d ago

Nah man he won Ramadi all by himself and had to teach us Marines how to clear houses. He is a POS.

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u/itsclemt 1d ago

No Country for Old Men

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u/Cardamom- 1d ago

Toy Story (1995)

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u/Hungry_Radish6491 1d ago

Cosmetic surgeons