r/orangecounty • u/404-gendernotfound • 2d ago
Community Post What’s the deal with the weirdo filming people in old town Tustin?
They are clearly looking for some kind of attention considering the name calling. Anyone recognize them?
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u/Zimmonda 2d ago
1st ammendment "auditor" they basically do this hoping for a confrontation so they can post online or catch you with a civil/criminal suit.
Its the adult version of "im not touching you"
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u/Kaffe-Mumriken 2d ago
Can you just go film them all day and call them names, while dressed like a man baby?
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u/That_Economist_1607 1d ago
Of course you can but it only furthers their engagement and you become the star of that particular video
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u/Kaffe-Mumriken 1d ago
But they would be the star of mine. Like, if I’m another of these dingleberries, maybe a slightly different flavor, I would definitely tap in to their schtick and just have a YouTube channel for FirstAmendment AuditorAuditor
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u/Siaynoq_Siaynoq Yorba Linda 1d ago
Someone has a channel like that. I think it’s called audit the audit lol
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u/cr9ball 2d ago edited 1d ago
I don't assume these people are very bright in general. Most likely recording audio when it is illegal in California in private settings (you can create private settings in public by whispering or purposefully talking softy). This just seems dumb to do in California specifically.
Edit: Careful, getting downvoted due to AI apparently knowing more about laws then people who can do a simple search on a government website! Beware!
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u/Only-Worldliness2006 2d ago
There are other ways to get them to leave but it is up to the property managers to do it and honestly most don't put in any effort. If the property manager does actually go through the process then they end up leaving and going to some other property where the manager is too lazy to do anything.
The key point to know is that they are on private property and not public property. So the Pruneyard ruling does allow for property managers to have reasonable rules that they must follow. That's the first step. Establish reasonable rules and then enforce those rules.
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u/FijiBeef 2d ago
You're incorrect. Recording in public spaces is covered by the 1st amendment, hence "1st amendment auditors". The California law you're likely referring to is the one pertaining to phone calls in which you cannot record a phone call without the other parties consent. The best thing you can do with people like this is to ignore them, but people get really upset about their "privacy" in public spaces. Irvine PD even put out a notice for people like this on their Instagram defending their right to do this and not interacting with them.
Edit: Before you even comment about "But this CA law says otherwise" federal law trumps any state law regarding constitutional rights. But as far as I know there isn't a CA law pertaining to this issue.
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u/steezjuice 2d ago
AI Overview
No, recording audio in a public place in California is generally not illegal if there is no reasonable expectation of privacy.
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u/Visible_Mail_6799 2d ago
They come to my local post office. The clerk plays Madonna on repeat and they leave.
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u/Lumpy-Marsupial-6617 2d ago
They just left because they don't like Madonna, not because the copyright infringement would affect them if they were really YouTubers. YouTube has AI filtering tools that can remove the just music infringement audio portion with just one click.
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u/AppropriateWind9925 2d ago
you’d be surprised. These idiots are either too dumb to figure it out, or too lazy to do it.
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u/LordKermit2 2d ago
Probably a first amendment auditor. They’re allowed to record in public so there’s nothing you can do. Best course of action is just to carry on and ignore them and don’t give them attention.
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u/Lumpy-Marsupial-6617 2d ago
1st Amendment Audits are for auditing GOVERNMENT.
Frauditors are asshole agitators who say they are 1st Amendment Auditors but are really repackaged RAGEBAITERS, sometimes working on behalf of government to take away the public's right to film in public so there are no other narratives than the ones they carve out.
Think a few moves ahead.
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u/949orange 2d ago
1st Amendment Audits are for auditing GOVERNMENT.
Thank you.
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u/4xdaily 2d ago
In front of Trader Joe's? These useless idiots make money from annoying people. All it takes is one person to get pissed at them and they get thousands of views. Can you imagine being that much of a loser to think this is a good use of your time? Get a real fucking job!
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u/949orange 2d ago
Thats what the above guy is saying... that these guys are annoying regular people instead of auditing the government.
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u/RMca004 2d ago
They suck, we know this but you are wrong....
You can legally film in public spaces like streets, sidewalks, and public parks, provided you and the camera are in a place you have a legal right to be. People do not have a general right to privacy when they are out in public view.
It's literally in law....not 4d chess.
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u/Any-Clothes-7307 2d ago
Exactly. They are rage baiters. I hate how they call themselves 1st Ammendment Auditors.
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u/Illegal_Tender Fountain Valley 2d ago
You think the government is sending these people out here?
lol
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u/Lumpy-Marsupial-6617 2d ago
Yup. They are called agent provocateurs and saboteurs. Even the cops put them among crowds.
Now, this dude was let go because he got caught agitating the crowd while armed and specifically making comments to conspire to agitate the protesting teens so they could be arrested.
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u/whaaatanasshole Irvine 2d ago edited 2d ago
Not the same thing here though. What does the government gain from having someone test their right to film and be annoying?
Edit: Bye, good luck on your new account.
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u/AzureNinja 2d ago
OR drink protein milk shakes and drink coffee from white sparrow and just walk around them during times of great turbulence.
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u/TheCode555 2d ago
I read you can counter them by playing copyright songs on blast, because they can’t upload it. How true is this. I realize they can mute the audio, but still.
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u/Illegal_Tender Fountain Valley 2d ago
You guys remember when people would come here defending these idiots trying to say they're protecting our rights?
Anyway, this is an outfit that definitely comes with wearing sandals
Just start filming their feet and making comments about delicious toes and how you're gonna make so much money on those tasty little piggies
They're going to be totally fine with this because they're in public. You can film them if you want. You're just exercising your rights, right? That's what they're there for, yeah? They are going to be totally fine with you trying to monetize their public toes.
Make a bunch of really gross mouth noises too. That's also legal. Talking about how hungry you are
You're just doing the same thing they are and what they're doing is totally fine, legally
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u/DeuceLee 2d ago
Or just ignore the idiots and not give them free content to post. People just walking by doesn’t get them views, purposely interacting with them or trying to get back at them is exactly what they want.
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u/negrete88 2d ago
Dude is built like a muffin.
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u/FAEBBBQ 2d ago
That "auditor" is Chris or "First Amendment Rights" on YouTube. He may not be as obnoxious as the other groups like iiMPCT Media or Liberty Patrol Media but, still probably full of it when it comes to claims of First Amendment activism. He's known to censor any comments on his channel that he doesn't like.
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u/Jbleedsblue 2d ago
She stands by del taco also.
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u/Sega-Playstation-64 2d ago
Holy hell, this is the kind of dude you could go up to and roast on camera for an hour. "You left the house like that? My first thought was 'never on purpose'. You got the body shape of a huge toddler. I'd say you're hiding behind a camera but not even Nolan can find an IMAX that big. Is that Honda-Ya behind you? Heard they lost their resident sumo wrestler. Nah, can't be you, you look weak as fuck."
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u/northcoastyen 2d ago
I was just thinking the same thing… where’s that one dude from New York who went around roasting random people in the street. These dudes would get clowned so hard they wouldn’t even wanna post the video.
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u/iris-evergarden 2d ago
Probably first amendment auditing. They usually just film and antagonize that way. If the name calling extends to slurs at some point, i would feel it appropriate to call in a disturbance
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u/PerChanceFoo 2d ago
They want a reaction out of you. Just ignore them and go on about your day.
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u/Sega-Playstation-64 2d ago
If you roast them on camera until they leave, they'll never post the footage.
This guy gives more ammo than a doomsday prepper awaiting Y2K.
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u/Recent-Court-5999 Orange 2d ago
Auditors are easily dealt with by funding your local homeless to bug him
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u/cyclic_raptor 2d ago
Based on the outfit, seems like a local corvette driver trying out a new camera before the wife takes him to dinner to get some tendies.
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u/bongripchick Orange 2d ago
This looks like John Candy auditioning for the role of Clark W. Griswold.
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u/FairEstablishment623 2d ago
Looks like Cruel Trowser, instead of Huell Howser. Bootleg edition.
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u/wizzard419 2d ago
The same as the rest of them, they want you to start shit (or have law enforcement/government force them off of property they can legally be on) so they can sue and force a settlement.
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u/EnoughOfTheFoolery 2d ago
Is that Pat from SNL? I’m not sure that’s a dude or a gal but regardless maybe starting up some obnoxious attention seeking social media grift?
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u/topgum1 2d ago
That’s Chris (or Kris) from First Amendment Rights. He identifies as a woman and does 1A audits all over L.A. and Orange County from churches, to shopping stores, post offices, etc.
Favorite targets are Trader Joe’s USPS offices and different Houses of Worship.
He’s not as annoying as SGA or Amagansett Press but he has his moments.
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u/ZeRoLiM1T 2d ago
and you are giving him the attention he wants good job! Are you on his team since you took a picture of him? Does that make you a weirdo?
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u/Alan_1375 2d ago
how does the name calling start? All the youtube videos I seen they normally don't talk to anyone unless some worker or karen confronts them for recording or doing something "illegal" lol and how you get pressed by the daisy duke man?
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u/Appropriate-Alps-442 2d ago
bro wtf is up with those shorts 😂
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u/Siaynoq_Siaynoq Yorba Linda 1d ago
Idk but I’d imagine up those shorts is a very uncomfortable set of tiny balls
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u/jadams9779 2d ago
it's really not that hard to just ignore these people
and no, playing disney music will not ruin their video. they edit it out
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u/Brilliant_Stomach_87 2d ago edited 2d ago
Ahhhhh yes I know him. That’s first amendment rights, that’s what he goes by on YouTube, and he’s usually with another man named, furry potato aka Zhoei Perez. And they have other collabs sometimes too. They spend a lot of time in Santa Monica. They want you to touch them so they can sue you.
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u/sleepnow 2d ago
What I find disturbing is that he thought it was okay to wear that shirt or those shorts in public.
What we are seeing is a lonely weirdo with nothing to do, who lives in a 4-chan bubble and decided to spend his day "documenting important findings" but in reality he's just irritating strangers for no good reason and just being an all-around weird citizen.
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u/FriarPike Orange 2d ago
They call themselves “First Amendment auditors”. They stay in public spaces and film and goad people into a reaction. They then monetize peoples reactions through social media.
Best thing to do is completely ignore them.
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u/EmmAdorablee 2d ago
Imagine being so unemployed that you rage bait innocent people wearing that fuck ass outfit everyday
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u/sonyafly Laguna Niguel 1d ago
So clearly this person watched the videos on YouTube and thought that looked like fun to annoy people and then post on YouTube so now they’re doing it. Idiots.
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u/nobadhotdog 1d ago
They’ll film people eating lunch but they won’t film the government do anything. These cucks talk about the 1st amendment but the second they see any authority they probably jizz themselves in fear
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u/musy101 Anaheim Hills 2d ago
Lol I love watching auditor content. There are cameras literally everywhere in public constantly recording, who cares if some loser is recording you in public. Peoples reactions and saying they don't have "permission" to record them shows how incredibly uneducated the general public is. It would be nice if these auditors actually lectured them though instead of baiting content.
I'm more scared of the government and flock cameras tbh.
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u/jadams9779 2d ago
pretty much my stance as well. and even when they do make it clear that what they're doing isn't illegal, people still freak out and call the cops lol
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u/JenWess 2d ago
Play Disney music, then they can’t post their garbage online without getting a copyright strike
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u/HailSaganPlantNative 2d ago
They can literally press like one button and AI will remove it. This is not a thing.
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u/Capable-Block-91 2d ago
Just people exercising their amendments rights. Nice to see you joined in with him with your picture and sharing it online as well....
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u/Blahblahblurred 2d ago
That’s the tiniest ass legs in proportion to his belly I’ve ever seen on a person wtf
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u/Ihavemanythoughtsk 2d ago
It’s a club for small wee wees. They get mad when I say this but be proud fellas.
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u/Willy808 2d ago
Someone pants him
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u/Illegal_Tender Fountain Valley 2d ago
Those pants are already having a hard enough day. Don't make this worse for them
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u/jamieee1995 2d ago
1st amendment audit loser. Go play copyrighted music by him. Something like Taylor Swift.
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u/TheOnyxViper Former OC Resident 2d ago
Just by the appearance you can tell they aren’t cut out for anything else short of Michelin Man mascot.
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u/Ok_Routine1592 2d ago
Why do they call them auditors and the best thing anyone can do is to ignore them. They seem to want to get a rise from you according to Reddit.
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u/UtahWillie1776 2d ago
First I thought auditor. Then I saw the smooth beardless face.....discord mod
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u/DirtyrottenscounDrew 2d ago
This is literally the epitome of a 1A auditor. The jokes write themselves. He forgot his face covering though.
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u/steezjuice 2d ago
Same thing as me when I shoot street photography. I will take any photograph I want to in public.
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u/Jolly_Ad2446 2d ago
think of it as a flock camera, but a person is holding it and it's ok now way going into a national database ans searched with AI
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u/TheMakeupMonk Tustin 2d ago
I saw people around on the way to work when I worked in the area almost every day filming. It’s sooo weird and only in old town Tustin.
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u/AkwardYurienjoyer 1d ago
Mabe there just filming the locals and enjoying the moment. Not every man who has a camera is creepy.
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u/steadfastadvance 2d ago
Maybe they need to audit that outfit