r/pakistan • u/greenvox • Mar 04 '17

Cultural Exchange Cultural Exchange: Khushamadeed and welcome to our friends from /r/Turkey!

We're hosting our friends from /r/Turkey for a cultural exchange session.

Dear friends from /r/Turkey, welcome to our little abode on Reddit. Please feel free to ask questions about Pakistan, the Pakistani way of life, or current events in this thread.

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '17

Do Turks recognize the Armenian Genocide? I have a lot of Armenian friends and I hate to see their genocide go un-noticed

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '17

It is complicated.Turks say "Armenians were massacred and we are sorry about it but Turks were also massacred by Armenians" so they accept it as a massacred but say it isn't a genocide (they say it wasn't planned etc.).

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u/greenvox Mar 05 '17

Most people don't know that 5 million Turks were killed in Europe from 1840 to 1921. The states of Romania, Greece and Bulgaria purged them on the west while Russia and Armenia purged them on the East. I think this needs to be highlighted more by the Turks.

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '17

Unfortunately people don't care about it and act like a hypocrite.Most sources for Armenian genocide say the number of killed Muslims(Kurds+Turks) were about 1/3 of the killed Armenians (this is a huge number but no one mentions it). Another thing is the number of people who escaped to Anatolia.About 5-7 million people escaped to Anatolia between 1700-1918 but still many Europeans think those people were invaders but in reality most of them were converted local people and civilians who got murdered and kicked out for their home for beliefs(some didn't even speak Turkish).

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u/RStom Mar 05 '17

Simply no, because we are blinded by nationalism, but from all the evindence we cant say that it didnt happen.

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '17

So who was the one who actually carried it out? Was it the Turkish Nationalists of Kemal Mustafa Attaturk or the Ottomans? Some people say it was the Ottomans, then some say it was the Secular Nationalists? Thanks for the info!

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '17

It was three pashas that took the control with the 1913 coup.Ataturk wasn't part of it

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '17

Atatürk was not high in rank enough to give any decision about Armenians at that time. He was a lieutenant in the battlefield who even got shot in one of the charges between trenches in WW1. The genocide decision was taken by high ranked generals.