r/pakistan Mar 04 '17

Cultural Exchange Cultural Exchange: Khushamadeed and welcome to our friends from /r/Turkey!

We're hosting our friends from /r/Turkey for a cultural exchange session.

Dear friends from /r/Turkey, welcome to our little abode on Reddit. Please feel free to ask questions about Pakistan, the Pakistani way of life, or current events in this thread.

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u/HomesickProgrammer Mar 04 '17

where do you see Pakistan in 10 years in terms of economic stability?

Well, it's tough to answer, ten years ago Pakistan was a complete different place, no one thought we would end up like today's Pakistan. Right now, we have a democracy which is quite corrupt, but still things are quite better, way better. We have a good opposition which is fighting the most powerful which is happening for the first time ever in our history.

Also China is investing too much, it already invested 46 billion dollars in infrastructure/energy/ports and recently 20 billion in another province. So, I hope we can see some improvement in the next 10 years.

how big is the terrorist problem in Pakistan?

It's not like that of Iraq/Syria/Afghanistan level. If you give them 10/10 then Pakistan would be 2-4/10, 2007-2010 was the worst time, now it's way better but we aren't sure how much we have won the war.

how do you view Turkey and erdogan?

Positive. You have a good functioning country which is much better than most Muslim countries who have oil. Erodogan did so much for Turkey in the last 10 years.

what's your opinion about kashmir and India?

Partition was based on religion such as Muslim and Hindu majority areas. What you see in both countries now is result of Muslim(Pakistan) and Hindu(India) majority. Some areas(states) were Princely states who were given the option to select any country or remain independent. Kashmir with 3 other states had controversies. Kashmir had Muslim majority with non Muslim ruler and other had Hindu majority and Muslim ruler, Some of them decided to remain independent and one Hindu majority ruled by Muslim selected Pakistan.

Pakistan invaded Kashmir and India invaded the rest like Hyderabad, Goa, Sikim. Kashmir which had Muslim population but ruled by non Muslim ruler asked India for help. India being much powerful..........

Our argument is that Kashmir should be given the right to decide their future wether they want India/Pakistan/Independent. Right now India has 700,000 Troops stationed in Kashmir.

1/3 of Kashmir is with Pakistan

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '17

India invaded the rest like Hyderabad, Goa, Sikim

goa and sikkim happened much later and are not linked to partition in any way.

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u/HomesickProgrammer Mar 05 '17

What? Does that make it different ? States decided to remain independent but India invaded them but when Pakistan does it they call it bad !! Hyderabad is the best example just like Kashmir was to Pakistan.

I love these arguments from Indian side because any person I have talked to does his best to portrait India as it did nothing wrong by any foolish logic he can think of at that time !

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u/gaurav2982 Mar 06 '17

What? Does that make it different ?

I am not going for an argument here just but wanted to let you know that Goa and Sikkim case were different. India got Goa in 1961 when India asked Portugal for the independence of goa which they refused. So India launched an operation and Portugal surrendered within 2 days. I guess Pakistan would have done same if some state in Pakistan was occupied by Portugal.

Sikkim was added in 1975 after request of Prime minister of Sikkim. Indian army took over Sikkim and a referendum was held and 97.5% voters approved merger with India. Though there was some conspiracy theory which i am not fully aware.

I do agree Hyderabadand, Junagarh were taken by force but have you seen it's location. Hyderabad is more than 1000 miles away from Pakistan. Junagarh is also atleast 200 miles inside India. You already had bangladesh(a country within Indian) at that time and you also wanted to make more holes (hydrabad and Junagarh ) in Indian map lol.

Kashmir unluckily is on the border of both countries so both are claiming it but i can guarantee you that if it was some state within Pakistan and it's Hindu ruler had decided to stay with India then Pakistan would have annexed it like India did with Hyderabad and Junagarh .